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From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
To: "Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 21/24] vfio: Determine noiommu device in __vfio_register_dev()
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2023 08:48:28 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230613084828.7af51055.alex.williamson@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DS0PR11MB7529EB2903151B3399F636F5C355A@DS0PR11MB7529.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

On Tue, 13 Jun 2023 14:33:01 +0000
"Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com> wrote:

> > From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2023 10:19 PM
> > 
> > On Tue, 13 Jun 2023 05:53:42 +0000
> > "Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com> wrote:
> >   
> > > > From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2023 6:42 AM
> > > >
> > > > On Fri,  2 Jun 2023 05:16:50 -0700
> > > > Yi Liu <yi.l.liu@intel.com> wrote:
> > > >  
> > > > > This moves the noiommu device determination and noiommu taint out of
> > > > > vfio_group_find_or_alloc(). noiommu device is determined in
> > > > > __vfio_register_dev() and result is stored in flag vfio_device->noiommu,
> > > > > the noiommu taint is added in the end of __vfio_register_dev().
> > > > >
> > > > > This is also a preparation for compiling out vfio_group infrastructure
> > > > > as it makes the noiommu detection and taint common between the cdev path
> > > > > and group path though cdev path does not support noiommu.  
> > > >
> > > > Does this really still make sense?  The motivation for the change is
> > > > really not clear without cdev support for noiommu.  Thanks,  
> > >
> > > I think it still makes sense. When CONFIG_VFIO_GROUP==n, the kernel
> > > only supports cdev interface. If there is noiommu device, vfio should
> > > fail the registration. So, the noiommu determination is still needed. But
> > > I'd admit the taint might still be in the group code.  
> > 
> > How is there going to be a noiommu device when VFIO_GROUP is unset?  
> 
> How about booting a kernel with iommu disabled, then all the devices
> are not protected by iommu. I suppose they are noiommu devices. If
> user wants to bound them to vfio, the kernel should have VFIO_GROUP.
> Otherwise, needs to fail.

"noiommu" is a vfio designation of a device, it must be created by
vfio.  There can certainly be devices which are not IOMMU backed, but
without vfio designating them as noiommu devices, which is only done
via the legacy and compat paths, there's no such thing as a noiommu
device.  Devices without an IOMMU are simply out of scope for cdev,
there should never be a vfio cdev entry created for them.  Thanks,

Alex


  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-13 14:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-02 12:16 [PATCH v12 00/24] Add vfio_device cdev for iommufd support Yi Liu
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 01/24] vfio: Allocate per device file structure Yi Liu
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 02/24] vfio: Refine vfio file kAPIs for KVM Yi Liu
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 03/24] vfio: Accept vfio device file in the KVM facing kAPI Yi Liu
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 04/24] kvm/vfio: Prepare for accepting vfio device fd Yi Liu
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 05/24] kvm/vfio: Accept vfio device file from userspace Yi Liu
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 06/24] vfio: Pass struct vfio_device_file * to vfio_device_open/close() Yi Liu
2023-06-12 21:52   ` Alex Williamson
2023-06-13  5:24     ` Liu, Yi L
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 07/24] vfio: Block device access via device fd until device is opened Yi Liu
2023-06-12 21:52   ` Alex Williamson
2023-06-13  5:46     ` Liu, Yi L
2023-06-13 14:16       ` Alex Williamson
2023-06-13 14:36         ` Liu, Yi L
2023-06-13 14:42           ` Alex Williamson
2023-06-13 14:44             ` Liu, Yi L
2023-06-13 17:19         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-13 17:31           ` Alex Williamson
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 08/24] vfio: Add cdev_device_open_cnt to vfio_group Yi Liu
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 09/24] vfio: Make vfio_df_open() single open for device cdev path Yi Liu
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 10/24] vfio-iommufd: Move noiommu compat validation out of vfio_iommufd_bind() Yi Liu
2023-06-22 17:59   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 11/24] vfio-iommufd: Split bind/attach into two steps Yi Liu
2023-06-22 17:59   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 12/24] vfio: Record devid in vfio_device_file Yi Liu
2023-06-22 18:00   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 13/24] vfio-iommufd: Add detach_ioas support for physical VFIO devices Yi Liu
2023-06-23 14:04   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 14/24] iommufd/device: Add iommufd_access_detach() API Yi Liu
2023-06-23 14:15   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-25 18:26     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 15/24] vfio-iommufd: Add detach_ioas support for emulated VFIO devices Yi Liu
2023-06-23 14:16   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 16/24] vfio: Move vfio_device_group_unregister() to be the first operation in unregister Yi Liu
2023-06-23 14:22   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 17/24] vfio: Add cdev for vfio_device Yi Liu
2023-06-23 15:58   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 18/24] vfio: Add VFIO_DEVICE_BIND_IOMMUFD Yi Liu
2023-06-12 22:27   ` Alex Williamson
2023-06-13  5:48     ` Liu, Yi L
2023-06-13 14:18       ` Alex Williamson
2023-06-13 14:28         ` Liu, Yi L
2023-06-13 14:39           ` Alex Williamson
2023-06-13 14:42             ` Liu, Yi L
2023-06-13 14:59               ` Alex Williamson
2023-06-23 16:15   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-26  8:34     ` Liu, Yi L
2023-06-26 12:56       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-26 13:35         ` Liu, Yi L
2023-06-26 14:51           ` Liu, Yi L
2023-06-28 14:34             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-28 14:41               ` Liu, Yi L
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 19/24] vfio: Add VFIO_DEVICE_[AT|DE]TACH_IOMMUFD_PT Yi Liu
2023-06-23 16:21   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 20/24] vfio: Only check group->type for noiommu test Yi Liu
2023-06-12 22:37   ` Alex Williamson
2023-06-13  9:20     ` Liu, Yi L
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 21/24] vfio: Determine noiommu device in __vfio_register_dev() Yi Liu
2023-06-12 22:42   ` Alex Williamson
2023-06-13  5:53     ` Liu, Yi L
2023-06-13 14:19       ` Alex Williamson
2023-06-13 14:33         ` Liu, Yi L
2023-06-13 14:48           ` Alex Williamson [this message]
2023-06-13 15:01             ` Liu, Yi L
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2023-06-13 17:35                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-13 20:10                     ` Alex Williamson
2023-06-14  3:24                       ` Liu, Yi L
2023-06-14  5:42                         ` Tian, Kevin
2023-06-14  6:14                           ` Liu, Yi L
2023-06-14  6:20                             ` Tian, Kevin
2023-06-14 12:23                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-14 13:12                                 ` Liu, Yi L
2023-06-14 17:30                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 22/24] vfio: Remove vfio_device_is_noiommu() Yi Liu
2023-06-12 22:46   ` Alex Williamson
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 23/24] vfio: Compile vfio_group infrastructure optionally Yi Liu
2023-06-23 16:35   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 24/24] docs: vfio: Add vfio device cdev description Yi Liu
2023-06-12 23:06   ` Alex Williamson
2023-06-13 12:01     ` Liu, Yi L
2023-06-13 14:24       ` Alex Williamson
2023-06-13 14:48         ` Liu, Yi L
2023-06-13 15:04           ` Alex Williamson
2023-06-13 15:11             ` Liu, Yi L
2023-06-13 17:30               ` Alex Williamson
2023-06-07  8:27 ` [PATCH v12 00/24] Add vfio_device cdev for iommufd support Nicolin Chen
2023-06-08  6:58 ` Jiang, Yanting
2023-06-09 16:47 ` Matthew Rosato

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