From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
To: "Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 24/24] docs: vfio: Add vfio device cdev description
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2023 09:04:03 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230613090403.1eecd1a3.alex.williamson@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DS0PR11MB75297AC071F2EF4F49D85999C355A@DS0PR11MB7529.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
On Tue, 13 Jun 2023 14:48:02 +0000
"Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com> wrote:
> > From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2023 10:24 PM
> >
> > On Tue, 13 Jun 2023 12:01:51 +0000
> > "Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2023 7:06 AM
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 2 Jun 2023 05:16:53 -0700
> > > > Yi Liu <yi.l.liu@intel.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > This gives notes for userspace applications on device cdev usage.
> > > > >
> > > > > Reviewed-by: Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Yi Liu <yi.l.liu@intel.com>
> > > > > ---
> > > > > Documentation/driver-api/vfio.rst | 132 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > > > 1 file changed, 132 insertions(+)
> > > > >
> > > > > diff --git a/Documentation/driver-api/vfio.rst b/Documentation/driver-api/vfio.rst
> > > > > index 363e12c90b87..f00c9b86bda0 100644
> > > > > --- a/Documentation/driver-api/vfio.rst
> > > > > +++ b/Documentation/driver-api/vfio.rst
> > > > > @@ -239,6 +239,130 @@ group and can access them as follows::
> > > > > /* Gratuitous device reset and go... */
> > > > > ioctl(device, VFIO_DEVICE_RESET);
> > > > >
> > > > > +IOMMUFD and vfio_iommu_type1
> > > > > +----------------------------
> > > > > +
> > > > > +IOMMUFD is the new user API to manage I/O page tables from userspace.
> > > > > +It intends to be the portal of delivering advanced userspace DMA
> > > > > +features (nested translation [5]_, PASID [6]_, etc.) while also providing
> > > > > +a backwards compatibility interface for existing VFIO_TYPE1v2_IOMMU use
> > > > > +cases. Eventually the vfio_iommu_type1 driver, as well as the legacy
> > > > > +vfio container and group model is intended to be deprecated.
> > > > > +
> > > > > +The IOMMUFD backwards compatibility interface can be enabled two ways.
> > > > > +In the first method, the kernel can be configured with
> > > > > +CONFIG_IOMMUFD_VFIO_CONTAINER, in which case the IOMMUFD subsystem
> > > > > +transparently provides the entire infrastructure for the VFIO
> > > > > +container and IOMMU backend interfaces. The compatibility mode can
> > > > > +also be accessed if the VFIO container interface, ie. /dev/vfio/vfio is
> > > > > +simply symlink'd to /dev/iommu. Note that at the time of writing, the
> > > > > +compatibility mode is not entirely feature complete relative to
> > > > > +VFIO_TYPE1v2_IOMMU (ex. DMA mapping MMIO) and does not attempt to
> > > > > +provide compatibility to the VFIO_SPAPR_TCE_IOMMU interface. Therefore
> > > > > +it is not generally advisable at this time to switch from native VFIO
> > > > > +implementations to the IOMMUFD compatibility interfaces.
> > > > > +
> > > > > +Long term, VFIO users should migrate to device access through the cdev
> > > > > +interface described below, and native access through the IOMMUFD
> > > > > +provided interfaces.
> > > > > +
> > > > > +VFIO Device cdev
> > > > > +----------------
> > > > > +
> > > > > +Traditionally user acquires a device fd via VFIO_GROUP_GET_DEVICE_FD
> > > > > +in a VFIO group.
> > > > > +
> > > > > +With CONFIG_VFIO_DEVICE_CDEV=y the user can now acquire a device fd
> > > > > +by directly opening a character device /dev/vfio/devices/vfioX where
> > > > > +"X" is the number allocated uniquely by VFIO for registered devices.
> > > > > +cdev interface does not support noiommu, so user should use the legacy
> > > > > +group interface if noiommu is needed.
> > > > > +
> > > > > +The cdev only works with IOMMUFD. Both VFIO drivers and applications
> > > > > +must adapt to the new cdev security model which requires using
> > > > > +VFIO_DEVICE_BIND_IOMMUFD to claim DMA ownership before starting to
> > > > > +actually use the device. Once BIND succeeds then a VFIO device can
> > > > > +be fully accessed by the user.
> > > > > +
> > > > > +VFIO device cdev doesn't rely on VFIO group/container/iommu drivers.
> > > > > +Hence those modules can be fully compiled out in an environment
> > > > > +where no legacy VFIO application exists.
> > > > > +
> > > > > +So far SPAPR does not support IOMMUFD yet. So it cannot support device
> > > > > +cdev neither.
> > > >
> > > > s/neither/either/
> > >
> > > Got it.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Unless I missed it, we've not described that vfio device cdev access is
> > > > still bound by IOMMU group semantics, ie. there can be one DMA owner
> > > > for the group. That's a pretty common failure point for multi-function
> > > > consumer device use cases, so the why, where, and how it fails should
> > > > be well covered.
> > >
> > > Yes. this needs to be documented. How about below words:
> > >
> > > vfio device cdev access is still bound by IOMMU group semantics, ie. there
> > > can be only one DMA owner for the group. Devices belonging to the same
> > > group can not be bound to multiple iommufd_ctx.
> >
> > ... or shared between native kernel and vfio drivers.
>
> I suppose you mean the devices in one group are bound to different
> drivers. right?
Essentially, but we need to be careful that we're developing multiple
vfio drivers for a given bus now, which is why I try to distinguish
between the two sets of drivers. Thanks,
Alex
> > > The users that try to bind
> > > such device to different iommufd shall be failed in VFIO_DEVICE_BIND_IOMMUFD
> > > which is the start point to get full access for the device.
> >
> > "A violation of this ownership requirement will fail at the
> > VFIO_DEVICE_BIND_IOMMUFD ioctl, which gates full device access."
>
> Got it.
>
> Regards,
> Yi Liu
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-06-13 15:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-06-02 12:16 [PATCH v12 00/24] Add vfio_device cdev for iommufd support Yi Liu
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 01/24] vfio: Allocate per device file structure Yi Liu
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 02/24] vfio: Refine vfio file kAPIs for KVM Yi Liu
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 03/24] vfio: Accept vfio device file in the KVM facing kAPI Yi Liu
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 04/24] kvm/vfio: Prepare for accepting vfio device fd Yi Liu
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 05/24] kvm/vfio: Accept vfio device file from userspace Yi Liu
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 06/24] vfio: Pass struct vfio_device_file * to vfio_device_open/close() Yi Liu
2023-06-12 21:52 ` Alex Williamson
2023-06-13 5:24 ` Liu, Yi L
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 07/24] vfio: Block device access via device fd until device is opened Yi Liu
2023-06-12 21:52 ` Alex Williamson
2023-06-13 5:46 ` Liu, Yi L
2023-06-13 14:16 ` Alex Williamson
2023-06-13 14:36 ` Liu, Yi L
2023-06-13 14:42 ` Alex Williamson
2023-06-13 14:44 ` Liu, Yi L
2023-06-13 17:19 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-13 17:31 ` Alex Williamson
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 08/24] vfio: Add cdev_device_open_cnt to vfio_group Yi Liu
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 09/24] vfio: Make vfio_df_open() single open for device cdev path Yi Liu
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 10/24] vfio-iommufd: Move noiommu compat validation out of vfio_iommufd_bind() Yi Liu
2023-06-22 17:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 11/24] vfio-iommufd: Split bind/attach into two steps Yi Liu
2023-06-22 17:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 12/24] vfio: Record devid in vfio_device_file Yi Liu
2023-06-22 18:00 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 13/24] vfio-iommufd: Add detach_ioas support for physical VFIO devices Yi Liu
2023-06-23 14:04 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 14/24] iommufd/device: Add iommufd_access_detach() API Yi Liu
2023-06-23 14:15 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-25 18:26 ` Nicolin Chen
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 15/24] vfio-iommufd: Add detach_ioas support for emulated VFIO devices Yi Liu
2023-06-23 14:16 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 16/24] vfio: Move vfio_device_group_unregister() to be the first operation in unregister Yi Liu
2023-06-23 14:22 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 17/24] vfio: Add cdev for vfio_device Yi Liu
2023-06-23 15:58 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 18/24] vfio: Add VFIO_DEVICE_BIND_IOMMUFD Yi Liu
2023-06-12 22:27 ` Alex Williamson
2023-06-13 5:48 ` Liu, Yi L
2023-06-13 14:18 ` Alex Williamson
2023-06-13 14:28 ` Liu, Yi L
2023-06-13 14:39 ` Alex Williamson
2023-06-13 14:42 ` Liu, Yi L
2023-06-13 14:59 ` Alex Williamson
2023-06-23 16:15 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-26 8:34 ` Liu, Yi L
2023-06-26 12:56 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-26 13:35 ` Liu, Yi L
2023-06-26 14:51 ` Liu, Yi L
2023-06-28 14:34 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-28 14:41 ` Liu, Yi L
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 19/24] vfio: Add VFIO_DEVICE_[AT|DE]TACH_IOMMUFD_PT Yi Liu
2023-06-23 16:21 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 20/24] vfio: Only check group->type for noiommu test Yi Liu
2023-06-12 22:37 ` Alex Williamson
2023-06-13 9:20 ` Liu, Yi L
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 21/24] vfio: Determine noiommu device in __vfio_register_dev() Yi Liu
2023-06-12 22:42 ` Alex Williamson
2023-06-13 5:53 ` Liu, Yi L
2023-06-13 14:19 ` Alex Williamson
2023-06-13 14:33 ` Liu, Yi L
2023-06-13 14:48 ` Alex Williamson
2023-06-13 15:01 ` Liu, Yi L
[not found] ` <20230613091301.56986440.alex.williamson@redhat.com>
[not found] ` <20230613111511.425bdeae.alex.williamson@redhat.com>
2023-06-13 17:35 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-13 20:10 ` Alex Williamson
2023-06-14 3:24 ` Liu, Yi L
2023-06-14 5:42 ` Tian, Kevin
2023-06-14 6:14 ` Liu, Yi L
2023-06-14 6:20 ` Tian, Kevin
2023-06-14 12:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-14 13:12 ` Liu, Yi L
2023-06-14 17:30 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 22/24] vfio: Remove vfio_device_is_noiommu() Yi Liu
2023-06-12 22:46 ` Alex Williamson
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 23/24] vfio: Compile vfio_group infrastructure optionally Yi Liu
2023-06-23 16:35 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-02 12:16 ` [PATCH v12 24/24] docs: vfio: Add vfio device cdev description Yi Liu
2023-06-12 23:06 ` Alex Williamson
2023-06-13 12:01 ` Liu, Yi L
2023-06-13 14:24 ` Alex Williamson
2023-06-13 14:48 ` Liu, Yi L
2023-06-13 15:04 ` Alex Williamson [this message]
2023-06-13 15:11 ` Liu, Yi L
2023-06-13 17:30 ` Alex Williamson
2023-06-07 8:27 ` [PATCH v12 00/24] Add vfio_device cdev for iommufd support Nicolin Chen
2023-06-08 6:58 ` Jiang, Yanting
2023-06-09 16:47 ` Matthew Rosato
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