From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Cc: Gerald Schaefer <gerald.schaefer@linux.ibm.com>,
Vasily Gorbik <gor@linux.ibm.com>,
Heiko Carstens <hca@linux.ibm.com>,
Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@linux.ibm.com>,
Claudio Imbrenda <imbrenda@linux.ibm.com>,
Alexander Gordeev <agordeev@linux.ibm.com>,
linux-s390@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/12] s390: add pte_free_defer(), with use of mmdrop_async()
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2023 09:34:09 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZIsFQalF7rwVKXrD@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fc5cd62e-d85f-36c3-ba37-db87e8b625d@google.com>
On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 02:59:33PM -0700, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> I guess the best thing would be to modify kernel/fork.c to allow the
> architecture to override free_mm(), and arch/s390 call_rcu to free mm.
> But as a quick and dirty s390-end workaround, how about:
RCU callbacks are not ordered so that doesn't seem like it helps..
synchronize_rcu would do the job since it is ordered, but I think the
performance cost is too great to just call it from mmdrop
rcu_barrier() followed by call_rcu on the mm struct might work, but I
don't know the cost
A per-cpu refcount scheme might also do the job reasonably
Making the page frag pool global (per-cpu global I guess) would also
remove the need to reach back to the freeable mm_struct and reduce the
need for struct page memory. This views it as a special kind of
kmemcache.
Another approach is to not use a rcu_head in the ptdesc at all.
With a global kmemcache-like-thing we could probably also organize
something where you don't use a rcu_head in the ptdesc, but instead
just a naked 'next' pointer. This would give enough space to have two
next pointers and the next pointers can be re-used for the normal free
list as well.
In this flow you'd thread the free'd frags onto a waterfall of global
per-cpu lists:
- RCU free the next cycle
- RCU free this cycle
- Actually free
Where a single rcu_head and single call_rcu frees the entire 2nd list
to the 3rd list and then schedules the 1st list to be RCU'd next. This
eliminates the need to store a function pointer in the ptdesc at
all.
It requires some global per-cpu lock on the free/alloc paths however,
but this is basically what every other arch does as it frees the page
back to the page allocator.
I suspect that two next pointers would also eliminate pt_frag_refcount
entirely as we can encode that information in the low bits of the next
pointers.
> (Funnily enough, there's no problem when the stored mm gets re-used for
> a different mm, once past its spin_lock_init(&mm->context.lock);
> because
We do that have really weird "type safe by rcu" thing in the
allocators, but I don't quite know how it works.
> Powerpc is like that. I have no idea how much gets wasted that way.
> I was keen not to degrade what s390 does: which is definitely superior,
> but possibly not worth the effort.
Yeah, it would be good to understand if this is really sufficiently
beneficial..
> I'll look into it, once I understand c2c224932fd0. But may have to write
> to Vishal first, or get the v2 of my series out: if only I could work out
> a safe and easy way of unbreaking s390...
Can arches opt in to RCU freeing page table support and still keep
your series sane?
Honestly, I feel like trying to RCU enable page tables should be its
own series. It is a sufficiently tricky subject on its own right.
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-06-15 12:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-05-29 6:11 [PATCH 00/12] mm: free retracted page table by RCU Hugh Dickins
2023-05-29 6:14 ` [PATCH 01/12] mm/pgtable: add rcu_read_lock() and rcu_read_unlock()s Hugh Dickins
2023-05-31 17:06 ` Jann Horn
2023-06-02 2:50 ` Hugh Dickins
2023-06-02 14:21 ` Jann Horn
2023-05-29 6:16 ` [PATCH 02/12] mm/pgtable: add PAE safety to __pte_offset_map() Hugh Dickins
2023-05-29 13:56 ` Matthew Wilcox
[not found] ` <ZHeg3oRljRn6wlLX@ziepe.ca>
2023-06-02 5:35 ` Hugh Dickins
2023-05-29 6:17 ` [PATCH 03/12] arm: adjust_pte() use pte_offset_map_nolock() Hugh Dickins
2023-05-29 6:18 ` [PATCH 04/12] powerpc: assert_pte_locked() " Hugh Dickins
2023-05-29 6:20 ` [PATCH 05/12] powerpc: add pte_free_defer() for pgtables sharing page Hugh Dickins
2023-05-29 14:02 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-05-29 14:36 ` Hugh Dickins
2023-06-01 13:57 ` Gerald Schaefer
2023-06-02 6:38 ` Hugh Dickins
2023-06-02 14:20 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-06 3:40 ` Hugh Dickins
2023-06-06 18:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-06 19:03 ` Peter Xu
2023-06-06 19:08 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-07 3:49 ` Hugh Dickins
2023-05-29 6:21 ` [PATCH 06/12] sparc: " Hugh Dickins
2023-06-06 3:46 ` Hugh Dickins
2023-05-29 6:22 ` [PATCH 07/12] s390: add pte_free_defer(), with use of mmdrop_async() Hugh Dickins
2023-06-06 5:11 ` Hugh Dickins
2023-06-06 18:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-08 2:46 ` Hugh Dickins
2023-06-06 19:40 ` Gerald Schaefer
2023-06-08 3:35 ` Hugh Dickins
2023-06-08 13:58 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-08 15:47 ` Gerald Schaefer
2023-06-13 6:34 ` Hugh Dickins
2023-06-14 13:30 ` Gerald Schaefer
2023-06-14 21:59 ` Hugh Dickins
2023-06-15 12:11 ` Gerald Schaefer
2023-06-15 20:06 ` Hugh Dickins
2023-06-16 8:38 ` Gerald Schaefer
2023-06-15 12:34 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2023-06-15 21:09 ` Hugh Dickins
2023-06-16 12:35 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-29 6:23 ` [PATCH 08/12] mm/pgtable: add pte_free_defer() for pgtable as page Hugh Dickins
2023-06-01 13:31 ` Jann Horn
[not found] ` <ZHekpAKJ05cr/GLl@ziepe.ca>
2023-06-02 6:03 ` Hugh Dickins
2023-06-02 12:15 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-29 6:25 ` [PATCH 09/12] mm/khugepaged: retract_page_tables() without mmap or vma lock Hugh Dickins
2023-05-29 23:26 ` Peter Xu
2023-05-31 0:38 ` Hugh Dickins
2023-05-31 15:34 ` Jann Horn
[not found] ` <ZHe0A079X9B8jWlH@x1n>
2023-05-31 22:18 ` Jann Horn
2023-06-01 14:06 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-06 6:18 ` Hugh Dickins
2023-05-29 6:26 ` [PATCH 10/12] mm/khugepaged: collapse_pte_mapped_thp() with mmap_read_lock() Hugh Dickins
2023-05-31 17:25 ` Jann Horn
2023-06-02 5:11 ` Hugh Dickins
2023-05-29 6:28 ` [PATCH 11/12] mm/khugepaged: delete khugepaged_collapse_pte_mapped_thps() Hugh Dickins
2023-05-29 6:30 ` [PATCH 12/12] mm: delete mmap_write_trylock() and vma_try_start_write() Hugh Dickins
2023-05-31 17:59 ` [PATCH 00/12] mm: free retracted page table by RCU Jann Horn
2023-06-02 4:37 ` Hugh Dickins
2023-06-02 15:26 ` Jann Horn
2023-06-06 6:28 ` Hugh Dickins
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