From: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/12] mm/khugepaged: retract_page_tables() without mmap or vma lock
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2023 23:18:50 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c096f6fb-93c4-3f23-7698-8e4c5286c2b2@google.com> (raw)
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On Wed, 31 May 2023, Jann Horn wrote:
> On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 8:25 AM Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com> wrote:
> > +static void retract_page_tables(struct address_space *mapping, pgoff_t pgoff)
...
> > + * Note that vma->anon_vma check is racy: it can be set after
> > + * the check, but page locks (with XA_RETRY_ENTRYs in holes)
> > + * prevented establishing new ptes of the page. So we are safe
> > + * to remove page table below, without even checking it's empty.
>
> This "we are safe to remove page table below, without even checking
> it's empty" assumes that the only way to create new anonymous PTEs is
> to use existing file PTEs, right? What about private shmem VMAs that
> are registered with userfaultfd as VM_UFFD_MISSING? I think for those,
> the UFFDIO_COPY ioctl lets you directly insert anonymous PTEs without
> looking at the mapping and its pages (except for checking that the
> insertion point is before end-of-file), protected only by mmap_lock
> (shared) and pte_offset_map_lock().
Right, from your comments and Peter's, thank you both, I can see that
userfaultfd breaks the usual assumptions here: so I'm putting an
if (unlikely(vma->anon_vma || userfaultfd_wp(vma)))
check in once we've got the ptlock; with a comment above it to point
the blame at uffd, though I gave up on describing all the detail.
And deleted this earlier "we are safe" paragraph.
You did suggest, in another mail, that perhaps there should be a scan
checking all pte_none() when we get the ptlock. I wasn't keen on yet
another debug scan for bugs and didn't add that, thinking I was going
to add a patch on the end to do so in page_table_check_pte_clear_range().
But when I came to write that patch, found that I'd been misled by its
name: it's about checking or adjusting some accounting, not really a
suitable place to check for pte_none() at all; so just scrapped it.
...
> > - collapse_and_free_pmd(mm, vma, addr, pmd);
>
> The old code called collapse_and_free_pmd(), which involves MMU
> notifier invocation...
...
> > + pml = pmd_lock(mm, pmd);
> > + ptl = pte_lockptr(mm, pmd);
> > + if (ptl != pml)
> > + spin_lock_nested(ptl, SINGLE_DEPTH_NESTING);
> > + pgt_pmd = pmdp_collapse_flush(vma, addr, pmd);
>
> ... while the new code only does pmdp_collapse_flush(), which clears
> the pmd entry and does a TLB flush, but AFAICS doesn't use MMU
> notifiers. My understanding is that that's problematic - maybe (?) it
> is sort of okay with regards to classic MMU notifier users like KVM,
> but it's probably wrong for IOMMUv2 users, where an IOMMU directly
> consumes the normal page tables?
Right, I intentionally left out the MMU notifier invocation, knowing
that we have already done an MMU notifier invocation when unmapping
any PTEs which were mapped: it was necessary for collapse_and_free_pmd()
in the collapse_pte_mapped_thp() case, but there was no notifier in this
case for many years, and I was glad to be rid of it.
However, I now see that you were adding it intentionally even for this
case in your f268f6cf875f; and from later comments in this thread, it
looks like there is still uncertainty about whether it is needed here,
but safer to assume that it is needed: I'll add it back.
>
> (FWIW, last I looked, there also seemed to be some other issues with
> MMU notifier usage wrt IOMMUv2, see the thread
> <https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/Yzbaf9HW1%2FreKqR8@nvidia.com/>.)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-06-06 6:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-05-29 6:11 [PATCH 00/12] mm: free retracted page table by RCU Hugh Dickins
2023-05-29 6:14 ` [PATCH 01/12] mm/pgtable: add rcu_read_lock() and rcu_read_unlock()s Hugh Dickins
2023-05-31 17:06 ` Jann Horn
2023-06-02 2:50 ` Hugh Dickins
2023-06-02 14:21 ` Jann Horn
2023-05-29 6:16 ` [PATCH 02/12] mm/pgtable: add PAE safety to __pte_offset_map() Hugh Dickins
2023-05-29 13:56 ` Matthew Wilcox
[not found] ` <ZHeg3oRljRn6wlLX@ziepe.ca>
2023-06-02 5:35 ` Hugh Dickins
2023-05-29 6:17 ` [PATCH 03/12] arm: adjust_pte() use pte_offset_map_nolock() Hugh Dickins
2023-05-29 6:18 ` [PATCH 04/12] powerpc: assert_pte_locked() " Hugh Dickins
2023-05-29 6:20 ` [PATCH 05/12] powerpc: add pte_free_defer() for pgtables sharing page Hugh Dickins
2023-05-29 14:02 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-05-29 14:36 ` Hugh Dickins
2023-06-01 13:57 ` Gerald Schaefer
2023-06-02 6:38 ` Hugh Dickins
2023-06-02 14:20 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-06 3:40 ` Hugh Dickins
2023-06-06 18:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-06 19:03 ` Peter Xu
2023-06-06 19:08 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-07 3:49 ` Hugh Dickins
2023-05-29 6:21 ` [PATCH 06/12] sparc: " Hugh Dickins
2023-06-06 3:46 ` Hugh Dickins
2023-05-29 6:22 ` [PATCH 07/12] s390: add pte_free_defer(), with use of mmdrop_async() Hugh Dickins
2023-06-06 5:11 ` Hugh Dickins
2023-06-06 18:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-08 2:46 ` Hugh Dickins
2023-06-06 19:40 ` Gerald Schaefer
2023-06-08 3:35 ` Hugh Dickins
2023-06-08 13:58 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-08 15:47 ` Gerald Schaefer
2023-06-13 6:34 ` Hugh Dickins
2023-06-14 13:30 ` Gerald Schaefer
2023-06-14 21:59 ` Hugh Dickins
2023-06-15 12:11 ` Gerald Schaefer
2023-06-15 20:06 ` Hugh Dickins
2023-06-16 8:38 ` Gerald Schaefer
2023-06-15 12:34 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-15 21:09 ` Hugh Dickins
2023-06-16 12:35 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-29 6:23 ` [PATCH 08/12] mm/pgtable: add pte_free_defer() for pgtable as page Hugh Dickins
2023-06-01 13:31 ` Jann Horn
[not found] ` <ZHekpAKJ05cr/GLl@ziepe.ca>
2023-06-02 6:03 ` Hugh Dickins
2023-06-02 12:15 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-29 6:25 ` [PATCH 09/12] mm/khugepaged: retract_page_tables() without mmap or vma lock Hugh Dickins
2023-05-29 23:26 ` Peter Xu
2023-05-31 0:38 ` Hugh Dickins
2023-05-31 15:34 ` Jann Horn
[not found] ` <ZHe0A079X9B8jWlH@x1n>
2023-05-31 22:18 ` Jann Horn
2023-06-01 14:06 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-06 6:18 ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2023-05-29 6:26 ` [PATCH 10/12] mm/khugepaged: collapse_pte_mapped_thp() with mmap_read_lock() Hugh Dickins
2023-05-31 17:25 ` Jann Horn
2023-06-02 5:11 ` Hugh Dickins
2023-05-29 6:28 ` [PATCH 11/12] mm/khugepaged: delete khugepaged_collapse_pte_mapped_thps() Hugh Dickins
2023-05-29 6:30 ` [PATCH 12/12] mm: delete mmap_write_trylock() and vma_try_start_write() Hugh Dickins
2023-05-31 17:59 ` [PATCH 00/12] mm: free retracted page table by RCU Jann Horn
2023-06-02 4:37 ` Hugh Dickins
2023-06-02 15:26 ` Jann Horn
2023-06-06 6:28 ` Hugh Dickins
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