From: Damien Le Moal <damien.lemoal@opensource.wdc.com>
To: Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>,
Chaitanya Kulkarni <chaitanyak@nvidia.com>
Cc: Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>, "hch@lst.de" <hch@lst.de>,
"martin.petersen@oracle.com" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
"dgilbert@interlog.com" <dgilbert@interlog.com>,
Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>,
"linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org" <linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org>,
"linux-block@vger.kernel.org" <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
"lsf-pc@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
<lsf-pc@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM/BPF BOF] Userspace command abouts
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2023 13:15:49 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0fe59301-65e6-d8a9-033e-0243ad59c56b@opensource.wdc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y/lpmrwuehnsWmmR@kbusch-mbp.dhcp.thefacebook.com>
On 2/25/23 10:51, Keith Busch wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 11:54:39PM +0000, Chaitanya Kulkarni wrote:
>> I do think that we should work on CDL for NVMe as it will solve some of
>> the timeout related problems effectively than using aborts or any other
>> mechanism.
>
> That proposal exists in NVMe TWG, but doesn't appear to have recent activity.
> The last I heard, one point of contention was where the duration limit property
> exists: within the command, or the queue. From my perspective, if it's not at
> the queue level, the limit becomes meaningless, but hey, it's not up to me.
Limit attached to the command makes things more flexible and easier for the
host, so personally, I prefer that. But this has an impact on the controller:
the device needs to pull in *all* commands to be able to know the limits and do
scheduling/aborts appropriately. That is not something that the device designers
like, for obvious reasons (device internal resources...).
On the other hand, limits attached to queues could lead to either a serious
increase in the number of queues (PCI space & number of IRQ vectors limits), or,
loss of performance as a particular queue with the desired limit would be
accessed from multiple CPUs on the host (lock contention). Tricky problem I
think with lots of compromises.
--
Damien Le Moal
Western Digital Research
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-02-25 4:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-02-16 11:50 [LSF/MM/BPF BOF] Userspace command abouts Hannes Reinecke
2023-02-16 16:40 ` Keith Busch
2023-02-17 18:53 ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2023-02-18 9:50 ` [LSF/MM/BPF BOF] Userspace command aborts Hannes Reinecke
2023-02-21 18:15 ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2023-02-20 11:24 ` [LSF/MM/BPF BOF] Userspace command abouts Sagi Grimberg
2023-02-21 16:25 ` Douglas Gilbert
2023-02-22 14:37 ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-02-22 14:53 ` Keith Busch
2023-02-23 15:35 ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-02-24 23:54 ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2023-02-25 1:51 ` Keith Busch
2023-02-25 4:15 ` Damien Le Moal [this message]
2023-02-25 16:14 ` James Smart
2023-02-27 16:33 ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-02-27 17:28 ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-02-27 17:44 ` Keith Busch
2023-02-27 21:18 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-02-27 21:42 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-02-28 8:05 ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-02-27 21:17 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-02-27 8:20 ` Hannes Reinecke
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