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From: Chaitanya Kulkarni <chaitanyak@nvidia.com>
To: Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>, Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
Cc: "linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org" <linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-block@vger.kernel.org" <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	"lsf-pc@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
	<lsf-pc@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM/BPF BOF] Userspace command abouts
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2023 18:53:53 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e7b781d8-d5a7-cf7f-f681-c116fbadfd01@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y+5cjPBE6h/IW9VH@kbusch-mbp>

On 2/16/23 08:40, Keith Busch wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 12:50:03PM +0100, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> it has come up in other threads, so it might be worthwhile to have its own
>> topic:
>>
>> Userspace command aborts
>>
>> As it stands we cannot abort I/O commands from userspace.
>> This is hitting us when running in a virtual machine:
>> The VM sets a timeout when submitting a command, but that
>> information can't be transmitted to the VM host. The VM host
>> then issues a different command (with another timeout), and
>> again that timeout can't be transmitted to the attached devices.
>> So when the VM detects a timeout, it will try to issue an abort,
>> but that goes nowhere as the VM host has no way to abort commands
>> from userspace.
>> So in the end the VM has to wait for the command to complete, causing
>> stalls in the VM if the host had to undergo error recovery or something.
> 
> Aborts are racy. A lot of hardware implements these as a no-op, too.
>   

I'd avoid implementing userspace aborts and fix things in spec first.

-ck


  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-17 18:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-16 11:50 [LSF/MM/BPF BOF] Userspace command abouts Hannes Reinecke
2023-02-16 16:40 ` Keith Busch
2023-02-17 18:53   ` Chaitanya Kulkarni [this message]
2023-02-18  9:50     ` [LSF/MM/BPF BOF] Userspace command aborts Hannes Reinecke
2023-02-21 18:15       ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2023-02-20 11:24   ` [LSF/MM/BPF BOF] Userspace command abouts Sagi Grimberg
2023-02-21 16:25     ` Douglas Gilbert
2023-02-22 14:37       ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-02-22 14:53         ` Keith Busch
2023-02-23 15:35           ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-02-24 23:54             ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2023-02-25  1:51               ` Keith Busch
2023-02-25  4:15                 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-02-25 16:14                   ` James Smart
2023-02-27 16:33                   ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-02-27 17:28                     ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-02-27 17:44                       ` Keith Busch
2023-02-27 21:18                         ` Damien Le Moal
2023-02-27 21:42                         ` Damien Le Moal
2023-02-28  8:05                         ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-02-27 21:17                     ` Damien Le Moal
2023-02-27  8:20                 ` Hannes Reinecke

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