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From: Pat LaVarre <p.lavarre@ieee.org>
To: axboe@suse.de
Cc: mdharm-scsi@one-eyed-alien.net, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: writable mmc profiles actually are writable
Date: 09 Oct 2003 17:01:12 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1065740472.2628.19.camel@patehci2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031007210020.GJ1704@suse.de>

> > Before now, I did not know I could find any
> > one place in the kernel source to tweak CDC
> > decisions.  To my confused newbie eye,
> > ide-cd.c and sr.c appeared coded
> > independently to fetch mode page x2A
> > Capabilities and neglect op x46 ...
>
> The ->generic_packet() hook and
> cdrom_generic_command was invented to solve
> this code duplication.

News to me, thanks.

> So in cdrom.c you just setup the cgc as
> needed, and pass it down to ide-cd or sr. See
> cdrom_mode_sense() for one of the many
> examples ...
> ...
> The idea ... make CDC_DVD_RAM really be the
> hardware type indication and not the pseudo
> randomly writable flag that it is now ...
> ...
> please proceed ...

Will do, now diff'ing against 2.6.0-test7.

> > > I haven't yet had to deal with dvd+rw or
> > > ddcd_rw (is this like mtr?
> > 
> > Sorry I do not know mtr.
> 
> mt rainier, different in spirit

Eh?  Different in spirit than what & how?

> mt rainier, different in spirit but allows the same 2kb
> writes and handles the rest in hardware.

Ah.  Yes some of the buzz re Mt Rainier has reached me before now.  But
I had not heard that writes work well unless actually aligned to more
like 64 KiB boundaries.  I had only heard that the hardware tolerated
misaligned writes, not that misaligned writes work well.

> > mo and dvd-ram have been supported for a long
> > > time and should be set with CDC_DVD_RAM,
> > 
> > ... CDC_MO_DRIVE appears only drivers/ide/ not in
> > drivers/scsi/.  Weakly I conclude mo doesn't
> > work the same in atapi and usb-storage.
> 
> IIRC, scsi mo drives are handled by sd, not sr.

Cluelessly I wonder.  I see if scsi mo works via scsi/sd.c, it works
without benefit of CDC_MO_DRIVE, which makes me wonder why drivers/ide
has a use for CDC_MO_DRIVE.  If I hear no reply, I will assume grep
CDC_MO_DRIVE drivers/ide/* would answer my question for me.  I have no
mo drive, so I do not find the question compelling.

> > > the disk profiles aren't driven by ide-cd or
> > > sr.
> > 
> > In drivers/scsi/sr.c I find: ...
> > In drivers/ide/ide-cd.c I find:
> > ...mask |= CDC_DVD_RAM;
> 
> ->mask is an inverted capability mask, so if you set
> CDC_DVD_RAM you mask that capability.

Ouch, that detail I actually did know already.

Sorry I was unclear.

I meant to say I find a default of & CDC_DVD_RAM == 0 and then the |= to
1 executed only conditionally e.g. sr.c:

        ... [fetch mode page x2A Capabilities] ...
        ...
        if ((buffer[n + 3] & 0x20) == 0) {
                /* can't write DVD-RAM media */
                cd->cdi.mask |= CDC_DVD_RAM;
        } else {
                cd->device->writeable = 1;
        }

In my newbie ignorance, that made me guess that sr_mod.ko, not cdrom.ko,
was deciding whether my usb-storage.ko drive was writable.

Pat LaVarre



  reply	other threads:[~2003-10-09 23:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-09-22 22:55 [linux-usb-devel] Re: USB storage problems on OHCI Pat LaVarre
2003-09-29 14:54 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-09-29 15:50   ` 2 KiB/block loopback found where Pat LaVarre
2003-09-29 16:46     ` Jens Axboe
2003-09-29 17:12       ` Pat LaVarre
2003-09-29 20:02         ` Pat LaVarre
2003-10-06 17:12           ` max GiB written per boot Pat LaVarre
2003-10-06 18:12             ` writable mmc profiles actually are writable Pat LaVarre
2003-10-06 18:22               ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-06 18:25                 ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-06 19:50                   ` Pat LaVarre
2003-10-06 20:38                     ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-06 20:58                       ` Pat LaVarre
2003-10-06 22:14                         ` Pat LaVarre
2003-10-06 23:56                           ` Pat LaVarre
2003-10-07  5:38                             ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-07  6:45                               ` Matthew Dharm
2003-10-07  6:48                                 ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-07  7:00                                   ` Matthew Dharm
2003-10-07  7:04                                     ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-10 20:36                                       ` Pat LaVarre
2003-10-10 21:04                                         ` Pat LaVarre
2003-10-10 21:25                                           ` Pat LaVarre
2003-10-10 22:43                                             ` Pat LaVarre
2003-10-10 23:16                                               ` Pat LaVarre
2003-10-11  0:43                                                 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-10-07 20:46                               ` Pat LaVarre
2003-10-07 21:00                                 ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-09 23:01                                   ` Pat LaVarre [this message]
2003-10-07  7:00                         ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-06 20:10                 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-10-06 20:28                   ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-06 20:21                 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-10-06 20:33                   ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-06 21:00             ` max GiB written per boot Pat LaVarre
2003-10-06 23:47               ` Pat LaVarre
2003-10-07  5:57                 ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-07 22:12                   ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-10-07 22:57                     ` Willem Riede
2003-10-08  1:27                       ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-10-08  4:34                         ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-10-08  6:44                           ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-09 21:59                     ` Pat LaVarre
2003-10-10 20:54                       ` Pat LaVarre
2003-10-07  0:51         ` 2 KiB/block loopback found where Pat LaVarre
2003-09-29 17:55     ` aligned /dev/scd$n reads less rare how Pat LaVarre
2003-09-29 19:39       ` zip of GiB cross-platform Pat LaVarre
2003-09-29 19:50         ` Matthew Wilcox
2003-09-29 19:56           ` Pat LaVarre
2003-10-24 14:41       ` aligned /dev/scd$n reads less rare how Pat LaVarre

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