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From: Pat LaVarre <p.lavarre@ieee.org>
To: linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-usb-devel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@osdl.org,
	mdharm-scsi@one-eyed-alien.net, stern@rowland.harvard.edu,
	hch@infradead.org, james.bottomley@steeleye.com,
	andries.brouwer@cwi.nl
Subject: Re: [linux-usb-devel] Re: USB storage problems on OHCI..
Date: 29 Sep 2003 08:54:41 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1064847281.24854.2.camel@patehci2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1064271322.4797.9.camel@patehci2>


> From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds () osdl ! org>
> Date: 2003-09-23 15:46:21
>
> Normal users consider hot-pluggable
> to be "I can rip the thing out by hand".

Yes.

Meanwhile, much (all except flash?) actual usb-storage now commercially
available is Not hot-pluggable in this sense.  Instead, "ata hdd lose
data in response to a pin 1 reset issued without op x35
"SYNCHRONIZE_CACHE". I've heard same of" writeable "dvd.  And loss of
bus power can kill any write cache in a drive, of course."

Pat LaVarre




  reply	other threads:[~2003-09-29 14:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-09-22 22:55 [linux-usb-devel] Re: USB storage problems on OHCI Pat LaVarre
2003-09-29 14:54 ` Pat LaVarre [this message]
2003-09-29 15:50   ` 2 KiB/block loopback found where Pat LaVarre
2003-09-29 16:46     ` Jens Axboe
2003-09-29 17:12       ` Pat LaVarre
2003-09-29 20:02         ` Pat LaVarre
2003-10-06 17:12           ` max GiB written per boot Pat LaVarre
2003-10-06 18:12             ` writable mmc profiles actually are writable Pat LaVarre
2003-10-06 18:22               ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-06 18:25                 ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-06 19:50                   ` Pat LaVarre
2003-10-06 20:38                     ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-06 20:58                       ` Pat LaVarre
2003-10-06 22:14                         ` Pat LaVarre
2003-10-06 23:56                           ` Pat LaVarre
2003-10-07  5:38                             ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-07  6:45                               ` Matthew Dharm
2003-10-07  6:48                                 ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-07  7:00                                   ` Matthew Dharm
2003-10-07  7:04                                     ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-10 20:36                                       ` Pat LaVarre
2003-10-10 21:04                                         ` Pat LaVarre
2003-10-10 21:25                                           ` Pat LaVarre
2003-10-10 22:43                                             ` Pat LaVarre
2003-10-10 23:16                                               ` Pat LaVarre
2003-10-11  0:43                                                 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-10-07 20:46                               ` Pat LaVarre
2003-10-07 21:00                                 ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-09 23:01                                   ` Pat LaVarre
2003-10-07  7:00                         ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-06 20:10                 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-10-06 20:28                   ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-06 20:21                 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-10-06 20:33                   ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-06 21:00             ` max GiB written per boot Pat LaVarre
2003-10-06 23:47               ` Pat LaVarre
2003-10-07  5:57                 ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-07 22:12                   ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-10-07 22:57                     ` Willem Riede
2003-10-08  1:27                       ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-10-08  4:34                         ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-10-08  6:44                           ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-09 21:59                     ` Pat LaVarre
2003-10-10 20:54                       ` Pat LaVarre
2003-10-07  0:51         ` 2 KiB/block loopback found where Pat LaVarre
2003-09-29 17:55     ` aligned /dev/scd$n reads less rare how Pat LaVarre
2003-09-29 19:39       ` zip of GiB cross-platform Pat LaVarre
2003-09-29 19:50         ` Matthew Wilcox
2003-09-29 19:56           ` Pat LaVarre
2003-10-24 14:41       ` aligned /dev/scd$n reads less rare how Pat LaVarre
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-09-23 15:23 Re: USB storage problems on OHCI Alan Stern
2003-09-24 14:10 ` [linux-usb-devel] " James Bottomley
2003-09-23 14:37 Andries.Brouwer
2003-09-23 14:51 ` James Bottomley
2003-09-23 15:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-22 23:07 Andries.Brouwer
2003-09-22 19:56 Andries.Brouwer
2003-09-22 20:48 ` Alan Stern
2003-09-22 20:51 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-09-23 14:04 ` James Bottomley
2003-09-22 18:55 Andries.Brouwer
2003-09-22 19:28 ` [linux-usb-devel] " James Bottomley
2003-09-22 17:55 James Bottomley
2003-09-22 19:55 ` [linux-usb-devel] " Linus Torvalds
2003-09-23 17:47   ` Ruud Linders
2003-09-23 18:16     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-24 16:40       ` Ruud Linders
2003-09-24 16:53         ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-26 18:43           ` Alan Stern
2003-10-03 14:18             ` Alan Stern
2003-10-03 15:05               ` James Bottomley
2003-10-03 21:35                 ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-09-22 17:29 Linus Torvalds
2003-09-22 17:49 ` [linux-usb-devel] " David Brownell
2003-09-22 18:40   ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-22 17:23 Patrick Mansfield
2003-09-22 17:41 ` [linux-usb-devel] " Linus Torvalds
2003-09-22 16:22 David Brownell
2003-09-22 16:31 ` [linux-usb-devel] " Linus Torvalds
2003-09-22 16:58 ` Martin Diehl
2003-09-22 17:19   ` David Brownell
2003-09-22 15:58 Patrick Mansfield
2003-09-22 16:36 ` [linux-usb-devel] " Alan Stern
     [not found] <20030922004943.E32009@one-eyed-alien.net>
2003-09-22 14:25 ` Alan Stern
2003-09-22 14:31   ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-09-22 15:11     ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-09-22 15:49       ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-09-22 16:09         ` [linux-usb-devel] " Linus Torvalds
2003-09-22 16:37         ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-09-22 16:44           ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-09-22 17:21             ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-09-22 19:01               ` Alan Stern
2003-09-22 15:50       ` Alan Stern
2003-09-22 15:29   ` Linus Torvalds

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