From: Chandra Seetharaman <sekharan@us.ibm.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Cc: linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, pjones@redhat.com, michaelc@cs.wisc.edu
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] scsi_dh: Add modalias support for SCSI targets
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:12:22 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1237403542.14147.23.camel@chandra-ubuntu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1237402051.3350.29.camel@localhost.localdomain>
On Wed, 2009-03-18 at 18:47 +0000, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-03-17 at 18:36 -0700, Chandra Seetharaman wrote:
> > From: Peter Jones <pjones@redhat.com>
> >
> > This patch allows the use of modaliases on scsi targets to correctly
> > load scsi device handler modules when the devices are found.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Peter Jones <pjones@redhat.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Chandra Seetharaman <sekharan@us.ibm.com>
>
> I have to say this is a bit icky.
>
> overloading the modalias type like this produces several nasty effects:
>
> 1. You don't actually care about type for any of the scsi_dh
> handlers, so they all have it as a useless extra field
> 2. TYPE_ANY is a bogus (non SAM) definition ... I suppose it's
> unlikely ever to clash, but you never know
>From (1) and (2) are you suggesting _not_ to use the TYPE field for
scsi_dh handlers ?
> 3. scsi_dh handlers would now get loaded on *any* system ...
> regardless of whether it's using multipathing or not ... that's
> going to cause problems with other multi path solutions, I bet.
Actually that is the intent. We _do_ want scsi_dh handlers to be loaded
before multipath comes into picture.
Basically we want the handlers to be available ASAP after the device is
configured. The reason is:
- These devices are active/passive, SCSI doesn't know about it and
any I/O sent to SCSI will be sent down to the device, irrespective
of the active/passive nature of the device in that path. When the
device (path) is passive, I/O leads to time delay and extraneous
error message (these are the two main reasons we moved the
device handler code from dm-multipath layer to SCSI(scsi_dh)).
With scsi_dh, I/O to the passive path will be short circuited in
prep_fn() and errors are REQ_QUIET'd.
Currently I suggest users to add these modules to their initrd to make
them available ASAP (as described at
http://sources.redhat.com/lvm2/wiki/MultipathUsageGuide#head-fb3efbb82fa69ca86b7db26423c235ae6c280caa)
If we have the support thru modalias, then appropriate modules will be
included in initrd by the installer, thereby making it easier for the
user.
BTW, dm-multipath currently have code to insert appropriate modules if
needed (if they are not already made available).
>
> Why not use a separately defined module alias for this ... and then
> program udev to understand it and do the loading only if multipath is
> actually present? I think we might have to add the INQUIRY strings to
> the uenv for this, but it would be a much more elegant solution.
>
> James
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-03-18 19:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-03-18 1:36 [PATCH 0/3] scsi_dh: Make scsi device handler modules automatically inserted Chandra Seetharaman
2009-03-18 1:36 ` [PATCH 1/3] scsi_dh: Add modalias support for SCSI targets Chandra Seetharaman
2009-03-18 13:44 ` Konrad Rzeszutek
2009-03-18 14:02 ` James Bottomley
2009-03-18 14:36 ` Konrad Rzeszutek
2009-03-18 18:30 ` Kay Sievers
2009-03-18 19:18 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2009-03-19 18:54 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2009-03-20 18:24 ` Peter Jones
2009-03-23 22:13 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2009-04-03 22:43 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2009-04-07 20:59 ` James Bottomley
2009-04-07 23:41 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2009-04-08 15:08 ` Peter Jones
2009-04-15 21:52 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2009-04-16 15:18 ` Hannes Reinecke
2009-04-07 23:22 ` Hannes Reinecke
2009-04-07 23:50 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2009-04-08 5:15 ` Kay Sievers
2009-04-08 19:13 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2009-03-18 18:47 ` James Bottomley
2009-03-18 19:12 ` Chandra Seetharaman [this message]
2009-03-18 20:09 ` James Bottomley
2009-03-18 20:24 ` Kay Sievers
2009-03-18 20:26 ` James Bottomley
2009-03-18 20:59 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2009-03-20 17:41 ` Peter Jones
2009-03-18 1:36 ` [PATCH 2/3] scsi_dh: Change scsi device handler modules to utilize modalias Chandra Seetharaman
2009-03-18 13:46 ` Konrad Rzeszutek
2009-03-18 15:43 ` Stefan Richter
2009-03-18 17:25 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2009-03-18 17:50 ` Stefan Richter
2009-03-18 18:18 ` Kay Sievers
2009-03-18 19:44 ` Stefan Richter
2009-03-18 18:50 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2009-03-18 19:46 ` Stefan Richter
2009-03-18 1:36 ` [PATCH 3/3] scsi_dh: Workaround a race condition in module insertion Chandra Seetharaman
2009-03-18 11:31 ` [PATCH 0/3] scsi_dh: Make scsi device handler modules automatically inserted Hannes Reinecke
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-04-27 18:06 Chandra Seetharaman
2009-04-27 18:06 ` [PATCH 1/3] scsi_dh: Add modalias support for SCSI targets Chandra Seetharaman
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