From: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
To: Martin Wilck <mwilck@suse.com>,
"Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
Brian Bunker <brian@purestorage.com>,
linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Benjamin Marzinski <bmarzins@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] scsi_dh_alua: properly handling the ALUA transitioning state
Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 14:06:47 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <32404e1c-bbd3-d3fb-c83f-394bc3765e7b@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c8e9451c521573b1774bd47f7a4dfe911fd80f8d.camel@suse.com>
On 5/20/22 12:57, Martin Wilck wrote:
> Brian, Martin,
>
> sorry, I've overlooked this patch previously. I have to say I think
> it's wrong and shouldn't have been applied. At least I need more in-
> depth explanation.
>
> On Mon, 2022-05-02 at 20:50 -0400, Martin K. Petersen wrote:
>> On Mon, 2 May 2022 08:09:17 -0700, Brian Bunker wrote:
>>
>>> The handling of the ALUA transitioning state is currently broken.
>>> When
>>> a target goes into this state, it is expected that the target is
>>> allowed to stay in this state for the implicit transition timeout
>>> without a path failure.
>
> Can you please show me a quote from the specs on which this expectation
> ("without a path failure") is based? AFAIK the SCSI specs don't say
> anything about device-mapper multipath semantics.
>
>>> The handler has this logic, but it gets
>>> skipped currently.
>>>
>>> When the target transitions, there is in-flight I/O from the
>>> initiator. The first of these responses from the target will be a
>>> unit
>>> attention letting the initiator know that the ALUA state has
>>> changed.
>>> The remaining in-flight I/Os, before the initiator finds out that
>>> the
>>> portal state has changed, will return not ready, ALUA state is
>>> transitioning. The portal state will change to
>>> SCSI_ACCESS_STATE_TRANSITIONING. This will lead to all new I/O
>>> immediately failing the path unexpectedly. The path failure happens
>>> in
>>> less than a second instead of the expected successes until the
>>> transition timer is exceeded.
>
> dm multipath has no concept of "transitioning" state. Path state can be
> either active or inactive. As Brian wrote, commands sent to the
> transitioning device will return NOT READY, TRANSITIONING, and require
> retries on the SCSI layer. If we know this in advance, why should we
> continue sending I/O down this semi-broken path? If other, healthy
> paths are available, why it would it not be the right thing to switch
> I/O to them ASAP?
>
But we do, don't we?
Commands are being returned with the appropriate status, and
dm-multipath should make the corresponding decisions here.
This patch just modifies the check when _sending_ commands; ie multipath
had decided that the path is still usable.
Question rather would be why multipath did that; however that logic
isn't modified here.
Cheers,
Hannes
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-05-20 12:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-05-02 15:09 [PATCH 1/1] scsi_dh_alua: properly handling the ALUA transitioning state Brian Bunker
2022-05-02 16:22 ` Hannes Reinecke
2022-05-03 0:50 ` Martin K. Petersen
2022-05-20 10:57 ` Martin Wilck
2022-05-20 12:06 ` Hannes Reinecke [this message]
2022-05-20 14:03 ` Martin Wilck
2022-05-20 19:08 ` Mike Christie
2022-05-20 20:03 ` Martin Wilck
2022-05-21 2:52 ` Brian Bunker
2022-05-23 16:03 ` Martin Wilck
2022-05-23 16:52 ` Brian Bunker
2022-05-24 8:29 ` Martin Wilck
2022-05-21 10:17 ` Hannes Reinecke
2022-05-23 15:33 ` Martin Wilck
2022-05-21 16:58 ` Mike Christie
2022-05-24 5:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-05-24 5:33 ` Hannes Reinecke
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