From: Damien Le Moal <dlemoal@kernel.org>
To: Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
Cc: linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Jaegeuk Kim <jaegeuk@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v16 00/26] Improve write performance for zoned UFS devices
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2024 12:20:14 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d594be95-2cbf-4f9c-8508-d7adcedb148b@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <de43ae13-240a-4653-b8ac-f36c433d9ffb@acm.org>
On 11/20/24 04:08, Bart Van Assche wrote:
> On 11/19/24 12:01 AM, Damien Le Moal wrote:
>> Impressive improvements but the changes are rather invasive. Have you tried
>> simpler solution like forcing unplugging a zone write plug from the driver once
>> a command is passed to the driver and the driver did not reject it ? It seems
>> like this would make everything simpler on the block layer side. But I am not
>> sure if the performance gains would be the same.
>
> Hi Damien,
>
> I'm not sure that the approach of submitting a new zoned write if the
> driver did not reject the previous write would result in a simpler
> solution. SCSI devices are allowed to respond to any command with a unit
> attention instead of processing the command. If a unit attention is
> reported, the SCSI core requeues the command. In other words, even with
> this approach, proper support for requeued zoned writes in the block
> layer is required.
Yes, but it would be vastly simpler because you would be guaranteed to having
only a single write request per zone being in-flight between the write plug and
the device at any time. So the requeue would not need reordering, and likely not
need any special code at all. nless I am missing something, this would be
simpler, no ?
The main question though with such approach is: does it give you the same
performance improvements as your current (more invasive) approach ?
> Additionally, that approach is not compatible with using .queue_rqs().
> While the SCSI core does not yet support a .queue_rqs() callback, I
> think it would be good to have this support in the SCSI core.
I do not understand why it is not compatible. What is the problem ?
> If we need requeuing support anyway, why to select an approach that
> probably will result in lower performance than what has been implemented
> in this patch series?
I am only trying to see if there is not a simpler approach than what you did.
The less changes, the better, right ?
--
Damien Le Moal
Western Digital Research
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-21 3:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-11-19 0:27 [PATCH v16 00/26] Improve write performance for zoned UFS devices Bart Van Assche
2024-11-19 0:27 ` [PATCH v16 01/26] blk-zoned: Fix a reference count leak Bart Van Assche
2024-11-19 2:23 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-11-19 20:21 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-11-19 0:27 ` [PATCH v16 02/26] blk-zoned: Split disk_zone_wplugs_work() Bart Van Assche
2024-11-19 0:27 ` [PATCH v16 03/26] blk-zoned: Split queue_zone_wplugs_show() Bart Van Assche
2024-11-19 2:25 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-11-19 0:27 ` [PATCH v16 04/26] blk-zoned: Only handle errors after pending zoned writes have completed Bart Van Assche
2024-11-19 2:50 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-11-19 20:51 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-11-21 3:23 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-11-21 17:43 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-11-19 0:27 ` [PATCH v16 05/26] blk-zoned: Fix a deadlock triggered by unaligned writes Bart Van Assche
2024-11-19 2:57 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-11-19 21:04 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-11-21 3:32 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-11-21 17:51 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-11-25 4:00 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-11-25 4:19 ` Damien Le Moal
2025-01-09 19:11 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-01-10 5:07 ` Damien Le Moal
2025-01-10 18:17 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-11-19 0:27 ` [PATCH v16 06/26] blk-zoned: Fix requeuing of zoned writes Bart Van Assche
2024-11-19 3:00 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-11-19 21:06 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-11-19 0:27 ` [PATCH v16 07/26] block: Support block drivers that preserve the order of write requests Bart Van Assche
2024-11-19 7:37 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-11-19 21:08 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-11-19 0:27 ` [PATCH v16 08/26] dm-linear: Report to the block layer that the write order is preserved Bart Van Assche
2024-11-19 0:27 ` [PATCH v16 09/26] mq-deadline: Remove a local variable Bart Van Assche
2024-11-19 7:38 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-11-19 21:11 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-11-19 0:27 ` [PATCH v16 10/26] blk-mq: Clean up blk_mq_requeue_work() Bart Van Assche
2024-11-19 7:39 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-11-19 0:28 ` [PATCH v16 11/26] block: Optimize blk_mq_submit_bio() for the cache hit scenario Bart Van Assche
2024-11-19 7:40 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-11-19 0:28 ` [PATCH v16 12/26] block: Rework request allocation in blk_mq_submit_bio() Bart Van Assche
2024-11-19 7:44 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-11-19 0:28 ` [PATCH v16 13/26] block: Support allocating from a specific software queue Bart Van Assche
2024-11-19 0:28 ` [PATCH v16 14/26] blk-mq: Restore the zoned write order when requeuing Bart Van Assche
2024-11-19 7:52 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-11-19 21:16 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-11-19 0:28 ` [PATCH v16 15/26] blk-zoned: Document the locking order Bart Van Assche
2024-11-19 7:52 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-11-19 0:28 ` [PATCH v16 16/26] blk-zoned: Document locking assumptions Bart Van Assche
2024-11-19 7:53 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-11-19 21:18 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-11-21 3:34 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-11-19 0:28 ` [PATCH v16 17/26] blk-zoned: Uninline functions that are not in the hot path Bart Van Assche
2024-11-19 7:55 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-11-19 21:20 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-11-21 3:36 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-11-19 0:28 ` [PATCH v16 18/26] blk-zoned: Make disk_should_remove_zone_wplug() more robust Bart Van Assche
2024-11-19 7:58 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-11-19 0:28 ` [PATCH v16 19/26] blk-zoned: Add an argument to blk_zone_plug_bio() Bart Van Assche
2024-11-19 0:28 ` [PATCH v16 20/26] blk-zoned: Support pipelining of zoned writes Bart Van Assche
2024-11-19 0:28 ` [PATCH v16 21/26] scsi: core: Retry unaligned " Bart Van Assche
2024-11-19 0:28 ` [PATCH v16 22/26] scsi: sd: Increase retry count for " Bart Van Assche
2024-11-19 0:28 ` [PATCH v16 23/26] scsi: scsi_debug: Add the preserves_write_order module parameter Bart Van Assche
2024-11-19 0:28 ` [PATCH v16 24/26] scsi: scsi_debug: Support injecting unaligned write errors Bart Van Assche
2024-11-19 0:28 ` [PATCH v16 25/26] scsi: scsi_debug: Skip host/bus reset settle delay Bart Van Assche
2024-11-19 0:28 ` [PATCH v16 26/26] scsi: ufs: Inform the block layer about write ordering Bart Van Assche
[not found] ` <37f95f44-ab1d-20db-e0c7-94946cb9d4eb@quicinc.com>
2024-11-22 18:20 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-11-23 0:34 ` Can Guo
2024-11-19 8:01 ` [PATCH v16 00/26] Improve write performance for zoned UFS devices Damien Le Moal
2024-11-19 19:08 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-11-21 3:20 ` Damien Le Moal [this message]
2024-11-21 18:00 ` Bart Van Assche
2024-11-25 3:59 ` Damien Le Moal
2025-01-09 19:02 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-01-10 5:10 ` Damien Le Moal
2024-11-19 12:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-19 18:52 ` Bart Van Assche
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