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From: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
To: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>
Cc: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	Hongbo Li <lihongbo22@huawei.com>,
	jack@suse.cz, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, gnoack@google.com,
	mic@digikod.net, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] fs: obtain the inode generation number from vfs directly
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2024 23:44:38 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240828034438.GB9627@mit.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240827171148.GN6043@frogsfrogsfrogs>

On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 10:11:48AM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> 
> But in seriousness, the usual four filesystems return i_generation.
> That is changed every time an inumber gets reused so that anyone with an
> old file handle cannot accidentally open the wrong file.  In theory one
> could use GETVERSION to construct file handles (if you do, UHLHAND!)
> instead of using name_to_handle_at, which is why it's dangerous to
> implement GETVERSION for everyone without checking if i_generation makes
> sense.

I believe the primary use case for {FS,EXT4}_IOC_GETVERSION was for
userspace NFS servers to construt file handles.

For file systems that don't store persistent i_generation numbers, I
think it would be absolutely wrong that FS_IOC_GETVERSION to return
zero, or some nonsense random number.  The right thing to do would be
to have it return an ENOTTY error if somene tries to call
FS_IOC_GETVERSION on a vfat file system.  Otherwise this could lead to
potential user data loss/corruption for users of userspace nfs servers.

	       	    		    	      	 - Ted

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-08-28  3:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-27  1:41 [RFC PATCH] fs: obtain the inode generation number from vfs directly Hongbo Li
2024-08-27  2:13 ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-08-27  2:32   ` Hongbo Li
2024-08-27  5:37     ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-08-27  9:22       ` Christian Brauner
2024-08-27 17:11         ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-08-28  2:16           ` Hongbo Li
2024-08-28  3:44           ` Theodore Ts'o [this message]
2024-08-28  5:38           ` Dave Chinner
2024-08-28 15:55             ` Jan Kara
2024-08-29  1:46               ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-08-29 13:34               ` Dave Chinner
2024-08-27  2:53 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-08-27  3:07   ` Hongbo Li
2024-08-28  4:27 ` Dave Chinner
2024-08-28 16:36 ` Tavian Barnes

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