From: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>
To: Jonathan McDowell <noodles@earth.li>
Cc: Yeoreum Yun <yeoreum.yun@arm.com>,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev,
paul@paul-moore.com, jmorris@namei.org, serge@hallyn.com,
roberto.sassu@huawei.com, dmitry.kasatkin@gmail.com,
eric.snowberg@oracle.com, jarkko@kernel.org, jgg@ziepe.ca,
sudeep.holla@kernel.org, maz@kernel.org, oupton@kernel.org,
joey.gouly@arm.com, suzuki.poulose@arm.com, yuzenghui@huawei.com,
catalin.marinas@arm.com, will@kernel.org, noodles@meta.com,
sebastianene@google.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 1/4] security: ima: call ima_init() again at late_initcall_sync for defered TPM
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2026 13:13:10 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <fa1cba435e079c9012f1c5d7d2a1bf5420be666f.camel@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aepQwcY523aukAvw@earth.li>
On Thu, 2026-04-23 at 18:02 +0100, Jonathan McDowell wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think what Mimi's proposing is:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If we're in late_initcall, and the TPM isn't available, return
> > > > > > immediately with an error (the EPROBE_DEFER?), don't do any init.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If we're in late_initcall_sync, either we're already initialised, so do
> > > > > > return and nothing, or run through the entire flow, even if the TPM
> > > > > > isn't unavailable.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So ima_init() just needs to know a) if it's in the sync or non-sync mode
> > > > > > and b) for the sync mode, if we've already done the init at
> > > > > > non-sync.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks, Jonathan. That is exactly what I'm suggesting. Any other changes
> > > > > should not be included in this patch. Since Yeoreum is not hearing me, feel
> > > > > free to post a patch.
> > > >
> > > > I see. so what you need to is this only
> > > > If it looks good to you. I'll send it at v3.
> > >
> > > FWIW, I pulled the tpm_default_chip check out a level to account for the
> > > extra init you mentioned, and have the following (completely untested or
> > > compiled, but gives the approach):
> >
> > Thanks, Jonathan! It looks good. Similarly untested/compiled.
>
> FWIW, it does compile.
>
> > Emitting a message on failure to initialize IMA at late_initcall is good, but
> > the attestation service won't know. Could you somehow differentiate between the
> > late_initcall and late_initcall_sync boot_aggregate records?
>
> Are you thinking "boot_aggregate" and "boot_aggregate_late" or similar
> as the "filename" on the entries, just so it's clear when we did the
> init in the log, or something else?
Perfect!
Mimi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-23 17:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-22 16:24 [RFC PATCH v2 0/4] fix FF-A call failed with pKVM when ff-a driver is built-in Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-22 16:24 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/4] security: ima: call ima_init() again at late_initcall_sync for defered TPM Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-22 17:20 ` Mimi Zohar
2026-04-22 18:46 ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-22 19:41 ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-22 21:20 ` Mimi Zohar
2026-04-23 5:55 ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-23 11:01 ` Mimi Zohar
2026-04-23 11:20 ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-23 12:34 ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-23 12:53 ` Jonathan McDowell
2026-04-23 13:07 ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-23 13:43 ` Mimi Zohar
2026-04-23 13:55 ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-23 14:03 ` Jonathan McDowell
2026-04-23 14:33 ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-23 18:01 ` Mimi Zohar
2026-04-23 18:13 ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-23 14:48 ` Mimi Zohar
2026-04-23 17:02 ` Jonathan McDowell
2026-04-23 17:13 ` Mimi Zohar [this message]
2026-04-22 16:24 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/4] tpm: tpm_crb_ffa: revert defered_probed when tpm_crb_ffa is built-in Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-23 10:17 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-04-22 16:24 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/4] firmware: arm_ffa: revert ffa_init() initcall level to device_initcall Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-23 9:13 ` Sudeep Holla
2026-04-22 16:24 ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/4] firmware: arm_ffa: check pkvm initailised when initailise ffa driver Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-23 8:34 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-04-23 10:29 ` Yeoreum Yun
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=fa1cba435e079c9012f1c5d7d2a1bf5420be666f.camel@linux.ibm.com \
--to=zohar@linux.ibm.com \
--cc=catalin.marinas@arm.com \
--cc=dmitry.kasatkin@gmail.com \
--cc=eric.snowberg@oracle.com \
--cc=jarkko@kernel.org \
--cc=jgg@ziepe.ca \
--cc=jmorris@namei.org \
--cc=joey.gouly@arm.com \
--cc=kvmarm@lists.linux.dev \
--cc=linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org \
--cc=linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=maz@kernel.org \
--cc=noodles@earth.li \
--cc=noodles@meta.com \
--cc=oupton@kernel.org \
--cc=paul@paul-moore.com \
--cc=roberto.sassu@huawei.com \
--cc=sebastianene@google.com \
--cc=serge@hallyn.com \
--cc=sudeep.holla@kernel.org \
--cc=suzuki.poulose@arm.com \
--cc=will@kernel.org \
--cc=yeoreum.yun@arm.com \
--cc=yuzenghui@huawei.com \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox