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From: Cezary Rojewski <cezary.rojewski@intel.com>
To: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
Cc: <tiwai@suse.com>, <broonie@kernel.org>, <perex@perex.cz>,
	<amade@asmblr.net>, <linux-sound@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ALSA: hda: Allow for codec model selection with module param
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2026 13:26:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <36644426-3302-47da-a720-f353c307348b@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a4pin4v2.wl-tiwai@suse.de>

On 9/15/2026 1:14 PM, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Sep 2026 19:58:05 +0200,
> Cezary Rojewski wrote:
>>
>> On 9/14/2026 6:44 PM, Takashi Iwai wrote:
>>
>>>>>> Model selection allows for customization of codec behaviour and thus
>>>>>> dealing with various problems on very specific configurations. The
>>>>>> parameter already exists but is part of snd_hda_intel specifically.
>>>>>> Non-Intel HDAudio controllers and DSP-capable drivers cannot benefit
>>>>>> from it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The common place for all the bus drivers is snd_hda_codec. Add modelname
>>>>>> parameter there and honor it when initializing codec->modelname field.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Link: https://github.com/thesofproject/linux/issues/5683
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Cezary Rojewski <cezary.rojewski@intel.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> The handling of the model option is a very long-standing PITA.
>>>>> A few years ago, I proposed a change like:
>>>>>   https://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2022-September/206631.html
>>>>> but it didn't reach to agreement.  So I'm not 100% sure whether adding
>>>>> here is the best choice, either.
>>>> Thank you for the link, Takashi.
>>>>
>>>> IMHO patch presented here addresses the feedback. I too prefer
>>>> one-location-for-all approach. Also, I do believe having no option for
>>>> specifying the model is worse than choosing either of the approaches for
>>>> the model selection.
>>>>
>>>> snd_hda_codec module is *everywhere* and given the param is an array, it
>>>> supports even very complicated scenarios when multiple HDAudio codecs
>>>> are engaged.
>>>
>>> The multi-codec is exactly the problem I've been seeing (of course in
>>> addition to the lack of the option in ASoC HD-audio).  You'll have to
>>> be very careful how to pass the option, and it can be even fragile.
>>> That's why I hesitated to take this...
>> By multi-codec I also meant scenarios where one has 2+ codecs from one
>> vendor e.g.: realtek. Having non-array param e.g.: for
>> snd_hda_codec_realtek would not suffice.
> 
> But those 2+ codecs are for the single device, right?  (e.g. driving
> multiple channels with multiple codecs, but all of them are a single
> device for user.)
> 
> In theory, it can be a hotplug device, and in that case, we may have
> two device configurations for multiple codecs of the same codec chip.
> But, that's an exception, and I wonder whether we should care for the
> model option that is mainly used for debugging or workaround.
On reference setups we do anything. 2+ standalone codecs on HDAudio bus
in our lab is not some kind of sorcery. Obviously right now we
workaround the kernel by applying a bunch of patches. But adding a
module param (of type array) covers both: any userspace and any
reference scenario.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-15 11:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-14 10:22 [PATCH] ALSA: hda: Allow for codec model selection with module param Cezary Rojewski
2026-09-14 16:01 ` Takashi Iwai
2026-09-14 16:29   ` Cezary Rojewski
2026-09-14 16:44     ` Takashi Iwai
2026-09-14 17:58       ` Cezary Rojewski
2026-09-15 11:14         ` Takashi Iwai
2026-09-15 11:26           ` Cezary Rojewski [this message]
2026-09-15 16:02             ` Takashi Iwai
2026-09-16  8:29               ` Cezary Rojewski
2026-09-16 10:57                 ` Takashi Iwai
2026-09-18  8:33                   ` Cezary Rojewski
2026-09-28 11:02                     ` Takashi Iwai

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