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From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: Cezary Rojewski <cezary.rojewski@intel.com>
Cc: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>, <tiwai@suse.com>,
	<broonie@kernel.org>, <perex@perex.cz>, <amade@asmblr.net>,
	<linux-sound@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ALSA: hda: Allow for codec model selection with module param
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2026 13:14:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a4pin4v2.wl-tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1d146db5-f4ff-4a5b-a1d9-181ee6d8ceac@intel.com>

On Mon, 14 Sep 2026 19:58:05 +0200,
Cezary Rojewski wrote:
> 
> On 9/14/2026 6:44 PM, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> 
> >>>> Model selection allows for customization of codec behaviour and thus
> >>>> dealing with various problems on very specific configurations. The
> >>>> parameter already exists but is part of snd_hda_intel specifically.
> >>>> Non-Intel HDAudio controllers and DSP-capable drivers cannot benefit
> >>>> from it.
> >>>>
> >>>> The common place for all the bus drivers is snd_hda_codec. Add modelname
> >>>> parameter there and honor it when initializing codec->modelname field.
> >>>>
> >>>> Link: https://github.com/thesofproject/linux/issues/5683
> >>>> Signed-off-by: Cezary Rojewski <cezary.rojewski@intel.com>
> >>>
> >>> The handling of the model option is a very long-standing PITA.
> >>> A few years ago, I proposed a change like:
> >>>   https://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2022-September/206631.html
> >>> but it didn't reach to agreement.  So I'm not 100% sure whether adding
> >>> here is the best choice, either.
> >> Thank you for the link, Takashi.
> >>
> >> IMHO patch presented here addresses the feedback. I too prefer
> >> one-location-for-all approach. Also, I do believe having no option for
> >> specifying the model is worse than choosing either of the approaches for
> >> the model selection.
> >>
> >> snd_hda_codec module is *everywhere* and given the param is an array, it
> >> supports even very complicated scenarios when multiple HDAudio codecs
> >> are engaged.
> > 
> > The multi-codec is exactly the problem I've been seeing (of course in
> > addition to the lack of the option in ASoC HD-audio).  You'll have to
> > be very careful how to pass the option, and it can be even fragile.
> > That's why I hesitated to take this...
> By multi-codec I also meant scenarios where one has 2+ codecs from one
> vendor e.g.: realtek. Having non-array param e.g.: for
> snd_hda_codec_realtek would not suffice.

But those 2+ codecs are for the single device, right?  (e.g. driving
multiple channels with multiple codecs, but all of them are a single
device for user.)

In theory, it can be a hotplug device, and in that case, we may have
two device configurations for multiple codecs of the same codec chip.
But, that's an exception, and I wonder whether we should care for the
model option that is mainly used for debugging or workaround.


thanks,

Takashi

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-15 11:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-14 10:22 [PATCH] ALSA: hda: Allow for codec model selection with module param Cezary Rojewski
2026-09-14 16:01 ` Takashi Iwai
2026-09-14 16:29   ` Cezary Rojewski
2026-09-14 16:44     ` Takashi Iwai
2026-09-14 17:58       ` Cezary Rojewski
2026-09-15 11:14         ` Takashi Iwai [this message]
2026-09-15 11:26           ` Cezary Rojewski
2026-09-15 16:02             ` Takashi Iwai
2026-09-16  8:29               ` Cezary Rojewski
2026-09-16 10:57                 ` Takashi Iwai
2026-09-18  8:33                   ` Cezary Rojewski
2026-09-28 11:02                     ` Takashi Iwai

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