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From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: "Péter Ujfalusi" <peter.ujfalusi@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>, Jaroslav Kysela <perex@perex.cz>,
	lgirdwood@gmail.com, broonie@kernel.org, tiwai@suse.com,
	linux-sound@vger.kernel.org, kai.vehmanen@linux.intel.com,
	ranjani.sridharan@linux.intel.com,
	yung-chuan.liao@linux.intel.com, pierre-louis.bossart@linux.dev,
	liam.r.girdwood@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ALSA: pcm: Release paused streams before suspend if resume is not supported
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2025 13:50:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87jz82ye7b.wl-tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <69c52779-ef90-45c5-a024-77f0030bf5cd@linux.intel.com>

On Wed, 02 Apr 2025 13:43:57 +0200,
Péter Ujfalusi wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 02/04/2025 14:21, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> >>> On the second thought, yet another variant would be to introduce only
> >>> one new trigger, SNDRV_PCM_TRIGGER_PAUSE_RESET, for resetting the
> >>> PAUSED state as a step before stopping the stream.  This can be
> >>> applied to all cases for snd_pcm_drop() and snd_pcm_suspend(), too.
> >>> If the driver doesn't support this mode, the PCM core may fall back to
> >>> SNDRV_PCM_TRIGGER_PAUSE_RELEASE.
> >>
> >> This looks identical to my proposed
> >> SNDRV_PCM_TRIGGER_PAUSE_RELEASE_AND_STOP which is more
> >> explanatory. It's not clear what PAUSE_RESET should do (probably the
> >> stream should be kept inactive).
> > 
> > There is a slight difference.  My proposal, *_TRIGGER_PAUSE_RESET,
> > doesn't have to stop the stream by itself, but it's only a preparation
> > for stopping.  That is, a proper TRIGGER_STOP always follows after
> > TRIGGER_PAUSE_RESET.
> 
> But what state that we move after we reset the PAUSE? is it RUNNING
> (iow, equals to PAUSE_RELEASE) or something else?

It'll be temporarily set to RUNNING.

> In case of suspend while the state is paused we will:
> TRIGGER_PAUSE_RESET followed by STOP or SUSPEND?

For suspend, PAUSE_RESET, then SUSPEND.
For dropping, PAUSE_RESET, then STOP.

> Most drivers are doing the same thing for STOP and SUSPEND trigger,
> however it is possible to do extra steps for SUSPEND to make sure that
> the whole system is in a lowest power state.

Yes, that's the reason I proposed PAUSE_RESET.  Then the driver can
handle the following stop or suspend operation differently.

That said, PAUSE_RESET is just another variant of PAUSE_RELEASE.
But this shouldn't actually enable the audio output again, but prepare
for the next SUSPEND or STOP trigger.


Takashi

  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-02 11:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-01 13:36 [PATCH] ALSA: pcm: Release paused streams before suspend if resume is not supported Peter Ujfalusi
2025-04-01 14:49 ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-01 16:58   ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-01 17:19     ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-01 18:46       ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-01 19:27         ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-02  6:41           ` Péter Ujfalusi
2025-04-02  8:14             ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-02  8:09           ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-02  8:39             ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-02  8:52               ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-02  9:16                 ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-02 10:45                   ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-02 11:21                     ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-02 11:43                       ` Péter Ujfalusi
2025-04-02 11:50                         ` Takashi Iwai [this message]
2025-04-02 12:52                           ` Péter Ujfalusi
2025-04-02 13:23                             ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-03 10:13                               ` Péter Ujfalusi
2025-04-03 14:01                                 ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-03 15:24                                   ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-03 16:09                                     ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-03 19:05                                       ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-04 10:44                                         ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-04 11:33                                           ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-04 14:44                                             ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-08  7:03                                         ` Péter Ujfalusi
2025-04-08  8:51                                           ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-08  9:45                                             ` Péter Ujfalusi
2025-04-04  8:58                                     ` Péter Ujfalusi
2025-04-04  9:08                                       ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-08  6:35                                   ` Péter Ujfalusi
2025-04-02 12:55                           ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-02  9:28                 ` Péter Ujfalusi
2025-04-02 11:27                   ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-02 11:53                     ` Takashi Iwai

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