From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: "Péter Ujfalusi" <peter.ujfalusi@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>, Jaroslav Kysela <perex@perex.cz>,
lgirdwood@gmail.com, broonie@kernel.org, tiwai@suse.com,
linux-sound@vger.kernel.org, kai.vehmanen@linux.intel.com,
ranjani.sridharan@linux.intel.com,
yung-chuan.liao@linux.intel.com, pierre-louis.bossart@linux.dev,
liam.r.girdwood@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ALSA: pcm: Release paused streams before suspend if resume is not supported
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2025 13:50:48 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87jz82ye7b.wl-tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <69c52779-ef90-45c5-a024-77f0030bf5cd@linux.intel.com>
On Wed, 02 Apr 2025 13:43:57 +0200,
Péter Ujfalusi wrote:
>
>
>
> On 02/04/2025 14:21, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> >>> On the second thought, yet another variant would be to introduce only
> >>> one new trigger, SNDRV_PCM_TRIGGER_PAUSE_RESET, for resetting the
> >>> PAUSED state as a step before stopping the stream. This can be
> >>> applied to all cases for snd_pcm_drop() and snd_pcm_suspend(), too.
> >>> If the driver doesn't support this mode, the PCM core may fall back to
> >>> SNDRV_PCM_TRIGGER_PAUSE_RELEASE.
> >>
> >> This looks identical to my proposed
> >> SNDRV_PCM_TRIGGER_PAUSE_RELEASE_AND_STOP which is more
> >> explanatory. It's not clear what PAUSE_RESET should do (probably the
> >> stream should be kept inactive).
> >
> > There is a slight difference. My proposal, *_TRIGGER_PAUSE_RESET,
> > doesn't have to stop the stream by itself, but it's only a preparation
> > for stopping. That is, a proper TRIGGER_STOP always follows after
> > TRIGGER_PAUSE_RESET.
>
> But what state that we move after we reset the PAUSE? is it RUNNING
> (iow, equals to PAUSE_RELEASE) or something else?
It'll be temporarily set to RUNNING.
> In case of suspend while the state is paused we will:
> TRIGGER_PAUSE_RESET followed by STOP or SUSPEND?
For suspend, PAUSE_RESET, then SUSPEND.
For dropping, PAUSE_RESET, then STOP.
> Most drivers are doing the same thing for STOP and SUSPEND trigger,
> however it is possible to do extra steps for SUSPEND to make sure that
> the whole system is in a lowest power state.
Yes, that's the reason I proposed PAUSE_RESET. Then the driver can
handle the following stop or suspend operation differently.
That said, PAUSE_RESET is just another variant of PAUSE_RELEASE.
But this shouldn't actually enable the audio output again, but prepare
for the next SUSPEND or STOP trigger.
Takashi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-04-02 11:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-04-01 13:36 [PATCH] ALSA: pcm: Release paused streams before suspend if resume is not supported Peter Ujfalusi
2025-04-01 14:49 ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-01 16:58 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-01 17:19 ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-01 18:46 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-01 19:27 ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-02 6:41 ` Péter Ujfalusi
2025-04-02 8:14 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-02 8:09 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-02 8:39 ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-02 8:52 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-02 9:16 ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-02 10:45 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-02 11:21 ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-02 11:43 ` Péter Ujfalusi
2025-04-02 11:50 ` Takashi Iwai [this message]
2025-04-02 12:52 ` Péter Ujfalusi
2025-04-02 13:23 ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-03 10:13 ` Péter Ujfalusi
2025-04-03 14:01 ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-03 15:24 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-03 16:09 ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-03 19:05 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-04 10:44 ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-04 11:33 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-04 14:44 ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-08 7:03 ` Péter Ujfalusi
2025-04-08 8:51 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-08 9:45 ` Péter Ujfalusi
2025-04-04 8:58 ` Péter Ujfalusi
2025-04-04 9:08 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-08 6:35 ` Péter Ujfalusi
2025-04-02 12:55 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-02 9:28 ` Péter Ujfalusi
2025-04-02 11:27 ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-02 11:53 ` Takashi Iwai
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