From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: Jaroslav Kysela <perex@perex.cz>
Cc: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>,
Peter Ujfalusi <peter.ujfalusi@linux.intel.com>,
lgirdwood@gmail.com, broonie@kernel.org, tiwai@suse.com,
linux-sound@vger.kernel.org, kai.vehmanen@linux.intel.com,
ranjani.sridharan@linux.intel.com,
yung-chuan.liao@linux.intel.com, pierre-louis.bossart@linux.dev,
liam.r.girdwood@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ALSA: pcm: Release paused streams before suspend if resume is not supported
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2025 13:21:15 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o6xeyfkk.wl-tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d4169edb-1dcc-4eef-9f3e-9b8c93cdc648@perex.cz>
On Wed, 02 Apr 2025 12:45:36 +0200,
Jaroslav Kysela wrote:
>
> On 02. 04. 25 11:16, Takashi Iwai wrote:
>
> >>>> For my view, the drivers may also receive those triggers:
> >>>>
> >>>> SNDRV_PCM_TRIGGER_PAUSE_RELEASE_AND_STOP
> >>>> SNDRV_PCM_TRIGGER_SUSPEND_IN_PAUSE
> >>>> SNDRV_PCM_TRIGGER_RELEASE_IN_PAUSE
> >>>>
> >>>> This will allow to handle all states properly without any side effects
> >>>> (like short unwanted DMA transfers).
> >>>>
> >>>> The drivers should probably activate those triggers conditionally to
> >>>> not break current state sequences.
> >>>
> >>> Hmm, that looks too complex, IMO.
> >>>
> >>> Another slightly more straightforward fix would be just to allow the
> >>> direct state transition from PAUSED to any state. Then the remaining
> >>> piece is all about driver implementations. And, this can be
> >>> conditionally operated, e.g. only when some extra flag is set. When
> >>> no flag is set, we keep applying PAUSE_RELEASE before the transition
> >>> like now, including Peter's patch, that can work generically (but not
> >>> always ideally).
> >>
> >> It looks also feasible. My proposal just allows the straight state
> >> identification from the trigger value in the drivers.
> >
> > On the second thought, yet another variant would be to introduce only
> > one new trigger, SNDRV_PCM_TRIGGER_PAUSE_RESET, for resetting the
> > PAUSED state as a step before stopping the stream. This can be
> > applied to all cases for snd_pcm_drop() and snd_pcm_suspend(), too.
> > If the driver doesn't support this mode, the PCM core may fall back to
> > SNDRV_PCM_TRIGGER_PAUSE_RELEASE.
>
> This looks identical to my proposed
> SNDRV_PCM_TRIGGER_PAUSE_RELEASE_AND_STOP which is more
> explanatory. It's not clear what PAUSE_RESET should do (probably the
> stream should be kept inactive).
There is a slight difference. My proposal, *_TRIGGER_PAUSE_RESET,
doesn't have to stop the stream by itself, but it's only a preparation
for stopping. That is, a proper TRIGGER_STOP always follows after
TRIGGER_PAUSE_RESET.
thanks,
Takashi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-04-02 11:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-04-01 13:36 [PATCH] ALSA: pcm: Release paused streams before suspend if resume is not supported Peter Ujfalusi
2025-04-01 14:49 ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-01 16:58 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-01 17:19 ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-01 18:46 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-01 19:27 ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-02 6:41 ` Péter Ujfalusi
2025-04-02 8:14 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-02 8:09 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-02 8:39 ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-02 8:52 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-02 9:16 ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-02 10:45 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-02 11:21 ` Takashi Iwai [this message]
2025-04-02 11:43 ` Péter Ujfalusi
2025-04-02 11:50 ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-02 12:52 ` Péter Ujfalusi
2025-04-02 13:23 ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-03 10:13 ` Péter Ujfalusi
2025-04-03 14:01 ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-03 15:24 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-03 16:09 ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-03 19:05 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-04 10:44 ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-04 11:33 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-04 14:44 ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-08 7:03 ` Péter Ujfalusi
2025-04-08 8:51 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-08 9:45 ` Péter Ujfalusi
2025-04-04 8:58 ` Péter Ujfalusi
2025-04-04 9:08 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-08 6:35 ` Péter Ujfalusi
2025-04-02 12:55 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-02 9:28 ` Péter Ujfalusi
2025-04-02 11:27 ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-02 11:53 ` Takashi Iwai
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