From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: Jaroslav Kysela <perex@perex.cz>
Cc: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>,
Peter Ujfalusi <peter.ujfalusi@linux.intel.com>,
lgirdwood@gmail.com, broonie@kernel.org, tiwai@suse.com,
linux-sound@vger.kernel.org, kai.vehmanen@linux.intel.com,
ranjani.sridharan@linux.intel.com,
yung-chuan.liao@linux.intel.com, pierre-louis.bossart@linux.dev,
liam.r.girdwood@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ALSA: pcm: Release paused streams before suspend if resume is not supported
Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2025 19:19:40 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87jz83ztn7.wl-tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9e7d5b08-c983-49aa-8076-062d02848da2@perex.cz>
On Tue, 01 Apr 2025 18:58:40 +0200,
Jaroslav Kysela wrote:
>
> On 01. 04. 25 16:49, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > On Tue, 01 Apr 2025 15:36:52 +0200,
> > Peter Ujfalusi wrote:
> >>
> >> Streams moved to SUSPENDED state from PAUSED without trigger. If a stream
> >> does not support RESUME then on system resume the RESUME trigger is not
> >> sent, the stream's state and suspended_state remains untouched.
> >> When the user space releases the pause then the core will reject this
> >> because the state of the stream is _not_ PAUSED, it is still SUSPENDED.
> >>
> >> From this point user space will do the normal (hw_params) prepare and
> >> START, PAUSE_RELEASE trigger will not be sent by the core after the
> >> system has resumed.
>
> Why you expect to see PAUSE_RELEASE trigger before SUSPEND trigger
> when resume is not supported ? I think that the driver has complete
> information:
>
> PAUSE -> SUSPEND [-> no RESUME]
>
> The driver should stay in the suspend state until a new stream
> re-initialization is invoked.
>
> It looks like that other logic should be moved to the end driver (if
> some parts must be reinitialized in the suspend phase when the resume
> is not supported). I don't think that this is job for PCM core nor SoC
> PCM core routines.
>
> The SUSPEND trigger is always invoked, isn't?
No, that's a part of the problems. The ops->suspend is called only
for the running state, while at snd_pcm_post_suspend(), the state is
changed to SUSPENDED. The original state is saved as
suspended_state, and this can be restored via snd_pcm_resume(), but
only if the driver supports the full resume.
We may allow calling ops->suspend also for PAUSED state, too. But
then each driver would need to have to handle this state change, too.
Currently, when snd_pcm_prepare(), *_drop() or *_drain() is called at
PAUSED state, the core automatically releases the pause beforehand.
> >> To fix this issue, release the paused stream before handling the suspend
> >> if the resume is not supported.
> >> This will ensure that the stream is properly suspended for suspend entry.
> >> On resume no attempt will be taken to resume the suspended stream as the
> >> resume is not supported, userspace will eventually going restart the audio.
> >>
> >> Link: https://github.com/thesofproject/linux/issues/5035
> >> Link: https://github.com/thesofproject/linux/issues/5341
> >> Suggested-by: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
> >> Signed-off-by: Peter Ujfalusi <peter.ujfalusi@linux.intel.com>
> >
> > Applied now. Thanks.
>
> I would consider revert if my objection is appropriate.
OK, I dropped the patch for now until we get agreement.
thanks,
Takashi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-04-01 17:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-04-01 13:36 [PATCH] ALSA: pcm: Release paused streams before suspend if resume is not supported Peter Ujfalusi
2025-04-01 14:49 ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-01 16:58 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-01 17:19 ` Takashi Iwai [this message]
2025-04-01 18:46 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-01 19:27 ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-02 6:41 ` Péter Ujfalusi
2025-04-02 8:14 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-02 8:09 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-02 8:39 ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-02 8:52 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-02 9:16 ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-02 10:45 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-02 11:21 ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-02 11:43 ` Péter Ujfalusi
2025-04-02 11:50 ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-02 12:52 ` Péter Ujfalusi
2025-04-02 13:23 ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-03 10:13 ` Péter Ujfalusi
2025-04-03 14:01 ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-03 15:24 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-03 16:09 ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-03 19:05 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-04 10:44 ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-04 11:33 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-04 14:44 ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-08 7:03 ` Péter Ujfalusi
2025-04-08 8:51 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-08 9:45 ` Péter Ujfalusi
2025-04-04 8:58 ` Péter Ujfalusi
2025-04-04 9:08 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-08 6:35 ` Péter Ujfalusi
2025-04-02 12:55 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2025-04-02 9:28 ` Péter Ujfalusi
2025-04-02 11:27 ` Takashi Iwai
2025-04-02 11:53 ` Takashi Iwai
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