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From: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
To: "Uwe Kleine-König (The Capable Hub)" <u.kleine-koenig@baylibre.com>
Cc: "Christian A. Ehrhardt" <lk@c--e.de>,
	Clemens Ladisch <clemens@ladisch.de>,
	Jaroslav Kysela <perex@perex.cz>, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.com>,
	"Christian A. Ehrhardt" <christian.ehrhardt@codasip.com>,
	linux1394-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-sound@vger.kernel.org,
	Wolfram Sang <wsa+renesas@sang-engineering.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/2] firewire: Simplify storing pointers in device id struct
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2026 10:19:21 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aeh2eXBdL3bfzXYR@ashevche-desk.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aed_ZwYj_ruoTAZc@monoceros>

On Tue, Apr 21, 2026 at 04:07:42PM +0200, Uwe Kleine-König (The Capable Hub) wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2026 at 09:53:57PM +0900, Takashi Sakamoto wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 20, 2026 at 07:39:32PM +0200, Christian A. Ehrhardt wrote:
> > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2026 at 06:08:16PM +0900, Takashi Sakamoto wrote:

...

> > Thanks for the references. It looks like there is not much to consider
> > outside of mm subsystem. But I have some concerns if supporting
> > ARM/RISC-V adoptation of CHERI extension in Linux FireWire subsystem.
> > 
> > Any structures in UAPI header of this subsystem are defined with
> > an assumption that the size of pointer in the existing System V
> > architectures is up to 64 bits at most. We can see many usage of
> > '__u64' type member for pointers (e.g. 'rom' in fw_cdev_get_info
> > structure). I imagine to need defining specific structures for this kind
> > of 'fat' pointer. (The same assumption lays on compat ioctl.)
> 
> The Standard C answer to that is: The assumption that you can fit a
> pointer in an unsigned long or u64 is not generally justified. This is
> "only" given for all current Linux archtectures. And if you want an
> integer type to store a pointer, use uintptr_t.

No, please don't. Linus was clear about this. Use `unsigned long` in that case.

> (And my position is that
> you better try to keep pointers in pointer variables, though there are
> some situations where you don't come around the conversion to an integer
> type. That's why I introduced the union instead of converting to
> uintptr_t.)

-- 
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko



  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-22  7:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-19  6:42 [PATCH v1 0/2] firewire: Simplify storing pointers in device id struct Uwe Kleine-König (The Capable Hub)
2026-04-19  6:42 ` [PATCH v1 1/2] " Uwe Kleine-König (The Capable Hub)
2026-04-19  6:42 ` [PATCH v1 2/2] ALSA: firewire: Make use of ieee1394's .driver_data_ptr Uwe Kleine-König (The Capable Hub)
2026-04-20  8:48   ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-04-20  9:08 ` [PATCH v1 0/2] firewire: Simplify storing pointers in device id struct Takashi Sakamoto
2026-04-20 17:39   ` Christian A. Ehrhardt
2026-04-21 12:53     ` Takashi Sakamoto
2026-04-21 14:07       ` Uwe Kleine-König (The Capable Hub)
2026-04-22  7:19         ` Andy Shevchenko [this message]
2026-04-22  8:30           ` Uwe Kleine-König (The Capable Hub)
2026-04-22  8:40             ` Uwe Kleine-König (The Capable Hub)
2026-04-22  9:40               ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-04-22 10:10                 ` Uwe Kleine-König (The Capable Hub)
2026-04-21 16:20       ` Christian A. Ehrhardt
2026-04-23 14:19 ` Takashi Sakamoto
2026-04-23 16:53   ` Uwe Kleine-König (The Capable Hub)
2026-04-27  6:37     ` Takashi Sakamoto
2026-04-27  8:07       ` Uwe Kleine-König (The Capable Hub)

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