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From: "Uwe Kleine-König (The Capable Hub)" <u.kleine-koenig@baylibre.com>
To: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
Cc: "Christian A. Ehrhardt" <lk@c--e.de>,
	 Clemens Ladisch <clemens@ladisch.de>,
	Jaroslav Kysela <perex@perex.cz>, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.com>,
	 "Christian A. Ehrhardt" <christian.ehrhardt@codasip.com>,
	linux1394-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	 linux-sound@vger.kernel.org,
	Wolfram Sang <wsa+renesas@sang-engineering.com>,
	 Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/2] firewire: Simplify storing pointers in device id struct
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2026 10:40:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aeiJRw-I622NhiHj@monoceros> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aeiElvAzJRPLKUeI@monoceros>

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Hello again,

On Wed, Apr 22, 2026 at 10:30:24AM +0200, Uwe Kleine-König (The Capable Hub) wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2026 at 10:19:21AM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 21, 2026 at 04:07:42PM +0200, Uwe Kleine-König (The Capable Hub) wrote:
> > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2026 at 09:53:57PM +0900, Takashi Sakamoto wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2026 at 07:39:32PM +0200, Christian A. Ehrhardt wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2026 at 06:08:16PM +0900, Takashi Sakamoto wrote:
> > 
> > ...
> > 
> > > > Thanks for the references. It looks like there is not much to consider
> > > > outside of mm subsystem. But I have some concerns if supporting
> > > > ARM/RISC-V adoptation of CHERI extension in Linux FireWire subsystem.
> > > > 
> > > > Any structures in UAPI header of this subsystem are defined with
> > > > an assumption that the size of pointer in the existing System V
> > > > architectures is up to 64 bits at most. We can see many usage of
> > > > '__u64' type member for pointers (e.g. 'rom' in fw_cdev_get_info
> > > > structure). I imagine to need defining specific structures for this kind
> > > > of 'fat' pointer. (The same assumption lays on compat ioctl.)
> > > 
> > > The Standard C answer to that is: The assumption that you can fit a
> > > pointer in an unsigned long or u64 is not generally justified. This is
> > > "only" given for all current Linux archtectures. And if you want an
> > > integer type to store a pointer, use uintptr_t.
> > 
> > No, please don't. Linus was clear about this. Use `unsigned long` in that case.
> 
> On CHERI we have sizeof(unsigned long) = 4 and sizeof(void *) = 8, so
> what Linus wants doesn't work.

Correction, we have sizeof(unsigned long) = 8 and sizeof(void *) = 16 or
course.

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  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-22  8:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-19  6:42 [PATCH v1 0/2] firewire: Simplify storing pointers in device id struct Uwe Kleine-König (The Capable Hub)
2026-04-19  6:42 ` [PATCH v1 1/2] " Uwe Kleine-König (The Capable Hub)
2026-04-19  6:42 ` [PATCH v1 2/2] ALSA: firewire: Make use of ieee1394's .driver_data_ptr Uwe Kleine-König (The Capable Hub)
2026-04-20  8:48   ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-04-20  9:08 ` [PATCH v1 0/2] firewire: Simplify storing pointers in device id struct Takashi Sakamoto
2026-04-20 17:39   ` Christian A. Ehrhardt
2026-04-21 12:53     ` Takashi Sakamoto
2026-04-21 14:07       ` Uwe Kleine-König (The Capable Hub)
2026-04-22  7:19         ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-04-22  8:30           ` Uwe Kleine-König (The Capable Hub)
2026-04-22  8:40             ` Uwe Kleine-König (The Capable Hub) [this message]
2026-04-22  9:40               ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-04-22 10:10                 ` Uwe Kleine-König (The Capable Hub)
2026-04-21 16:20       ` Christian A. Ehrhardt
2026-04-23 14:19 ` Takashi Sakamoto
2026-04-23 16:53   ` Uwe Kleine-König (The Capable Hub)
2026-04-27  6:37     ` Takashi Sakamoto
2026-04-27  8:07       ` Uwe Kleine-König (The Capable Hub)

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