From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH mm-unstable v18 06/14] mm/khugepaged: generalize collapse_huge_page for mTHP collapse
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2026 10:15:38 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1c99294c-9ebe-4856-bfde-09801701d75c@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fb8f24b1-ce8e-4f06-bbd8-f148a9bcaeee@linux.dev>
On 6/1/26 09:49, Lance Yang wrote:
>
>
> On 2026/6/1 14:54, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
>> On 6/1/26 05:28, Lance Yang wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Ah, fair point.
>>>
>>> I was mostly worried about arch hooks that walk vma->vm_mm again, rather
>>> than only using the pte pointer passed in. For example, mips does:
>>
>> Right, a re-walk would be the real problem.
>>
>>>
>>> update_mmu_cache_range()
>>> -> __update_tlb()
>>> -> pgd_offset(vma->vm_mm, address)
>>> -> pte_offset_map(...)
>>>
>>> and __update_tlb() has this assumption:
>>>
>>> /*
>>> * update_mmu_cache() is called between pte_offset_map_lock()
>>> * and pte_unmap_unlock(), so we can assume that ptep is not
>>> * NULL here: and what should be done below if it were NULL?
>>> */
>>>
>>> So if khugepaged happens to run with current->active_mm == vma->vm_mm
>>> here, could __update_tlb() hit the none PMD, get NULL from
>>> pte_offset_map(), and then dereference it?
>>
>> Likely yes -- that MIPS code is horrible. And the comment in MIPS code
>> even spells that out. :(
>>
>> Do you know about other code like that, or is MIPS the only one doing a
>> re-walk and crossing fingers?
>
> I had Codex do the boring grep-work through the arch update_mmu_cache*
> code :D
>
> MIPS doesn't seem to be the only code doing a re-walk, but it is the
> only one I found that appears to assume the PMD/PTE walk cannot fail,
> without checking whether the PMD is none ...
Okay, but likely the other code that tries to handle it is also problematic.
Best to make sure the page table is already installed when updating the entries.
--
Cheers,
David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-01 8:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-05-22 14:59 [PATCH mm-hotfixes-unstable v18 00/14] khugepaged: add mTHP collapse support Nico Pache
2026-05-22 14:59 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 01/14] mm/khugepaged: generalize hugepage_vma_revalidate for mTHP support Nico Pache
2026-05-22 14:59 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 02/14] mm/khugepaged: generalize alloc_charge_folio() Nico Pache
2026-05-22 14:59 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 03/14] mm/khugepaged: rework max_ptes_* handling with helper functions Nico Pache
2026-05-22 21:16 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 13:26 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 14:59 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 04/14] mm/khugepaged: generalize __collapse_huge_page_* for mTHP support Nico Pache
2026-05-22 21:24 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-26 14:39 ` Nico Pache
2026-06-01 14:04 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 05/14] mm/khugepaged: require collapse_huge_page to enter/exit with the lock dropped Nico Pache
2026-06-01 14:07 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 06/14] mm/khugepaged: generalize collapse_huge_page for mTHP collapse Nico Pache
2026-05-22 21:47 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-26 14:42 ` Nico Pache
2026-05-31 9:39 ` Lance Yang
2026-05-31 20:00 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 3:28 ` Lance Yang
2026-06-01 6:54 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 7:49 ` Lance Yang
2026-06-01 8:15 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-06-01 8:44 ` Lance Yang
2026-06-01 10:09 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 9:08 ` Lance Yang
2026-06-01 10:23 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 10:47 ` Lance Yang
2026-06-01 11:13 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 15:00 ` Nico Pache
2026-06-01 15:05 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 16:07 ` Lance Yang
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 07/14] mm/khugepaged: skip collapsing mTHP to smaller orders Nico Pache
2026-05-22 21:51 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 08/14] mm/khugepaged: add per-order mTHP collapse failure statistics Nico Pache
2026-05-31 20:09 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 14:13 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 09/14] mm/khugepaged: improve tracepoints for mTHP orders Nico Pache
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 10/14] mm/khugepaged: introduce collapse_allowable_orders helper function Nico Pache
2026-05-31 20:18 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 14:35 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-01 14:40 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 11/14] mm/khugepaged: Introduce mTHP collapse support Nico Pache
2026-05-25 14:15 ` Nico Pache
2026-05-25 19:10 ` Andrew Morton
2026-05-26 6:57 ` Wei Yang
2026-05-26 12:07 ` Nico Pache
2026-05-28 8:42 ` Wei Yang
2026-05-28 17:11 ` Nico Pache
2026-05-31 7:18 ` Lance Yang
2026-05-31 8:48 ` Lance Yang
2026-06-01 12:01 ` Nico Pache
2026-06-01 12:06 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 8:11 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 12:40 ` Nico Pache
2026-06-01 13:15 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 12/14] mm/khugepaged: avoid unnecessary mTHP collapse attempts Nico Pache
2026-05-31 7:31 ` Lance Yang
2026-05-31 20:02 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 1:53 ` Lance Yang
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 13/14] mm/khugepaged: run khugepaged for all orders Nico Pache
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 14/14] Documentation: mm: update the admin guide for mTHP collapse Nico Pache
2026-05-22 21:58 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-26 12:00 ` Nico Pache
2026-05-26 14:45 ` Nico Pache
2026-05-22 15:07 ` [PATCH mm-hotfixes-unstable v18 00/14] khugepaged: add mTHP collapse support Nico Pache
2026-05-22 15:13 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-05-22 16:11 ` Nico Pache
2026-05-22 21:13 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-22 15:16 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 16:08 ` Nico Pache
2026-05-22 16:19 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 16:31 ` Nico Pache
2026-05-22 17:12 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-26 8:14 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 15:13 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 20:47 ` Andrew Morton
2026-06-01 15:58 ` Alexander Gordeev
2026-06-01 17:05 ` Nico Pache
2026-06-01 17:08 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
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