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From: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH mm-unstable v18 06/14] mm/khugepaged: generalize collapse_huge_page for mTHP collapse
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2026 16:44:44 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <32751424-8ad3-4fd2-9f07-8a4f5a98d632@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1c99294c-9ebe-4856-bfde-09801701d75c@kernel.org>



On 2026/6/1 16:15, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> On 6/1/26 09:49, Lance Yang wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 2026/6/1 14:54, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
>>> On 6/1/26 05:28, Lance Yang wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ah, fair point.
>>>>
>>>> I was mostly worried about arch hooks that walk vma->vm_mm again, rather
>>>> than only using the pte pointer passed in. For example, mips does:
>>>
>>> Right, a re-walk would be the real problem.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>     update_mmu_cache_range()
>>>>       -> __update_tlb()
>>>>         -> pgd_offset(vma->vm_mm, address)
>>>>         -> pte_offset_map(...)
>>>>
>>>> and __update_tlb() has this assumption:
>>>>
>>>>          /*
>>>>           * update_mmu_cache() is called between pte_offset_map_lock()
>>>>           * and pte_unmap_unlock(), so we can assume that ptep is not
>>>>           * NULL here: and what should be done below if it were NULL?
>>>>           */
>>>>
>>>> So if khugepaged happens to run with current->active_mm == vma->vm_mm
>>>> here, could __update_tlb() hit the none PMD, get NULL from
>>>> pte_offset_map(), and then dereference it?
>>>
>>> Likely yes -- that MIPS code is horrible. And the comment in MIPS code
>>> even spells that out. :(
>>>
>>> Do you know about other code like that, or is MIPS the only one doing a
>>> re-walk and crossing fingers?
>>
>> I had Codex do the boring grep-work through the arch update_mmu_cache*
>> code :D
>>
>> MIPS doesn't seem to be the only code doing a re-walk, but it is the
>> only one I found that appears to assume the PMD/PTE walk cannot fail,
>> without checking whether the PMD is none ...
> 
> Okay, but likely the other code that tries to handle it is also problematic.
> 
> Best to make sure the page table is already installed when updating the entries.

Neat, makes sense to me :D

That way the page talbe is back in place before any arch hook gets to 
look at it :)


  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-01  8:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-22 14:59 [PATCH mm-hotfixes-unstable v18 00/14] khugepaged: add mTHP collapse support Nico Pache
2026-05-22 14:59 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 01/14] mm/khugepaged: generalize hugepage_vma_revalidate for mTHP support Nico Pache
2026-05-22 14:59 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 02/14] mm/khugepaged: generalize alloc_charge_folio() Nico Pache
2026-05-22 14:59 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 03/14] mm/khugepaged: rework max_ptes_* handling with helper functions Nico Pache
2026-05-22 21:16   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 13:26   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 14:59 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 04/14] mm/khugepaged: generalize __collapse_huge_page_* for mTHP support Nico Pache
2026-05-22 21:24   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-26 14:39   ` Nico Pache
2026-06-01 14:04   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 05/14] mm/khugepaged: require collapse_huge_page to enter/exit with the lock dropped Nico Pache
2026-06-01 14:07   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 06/14] mm/khugepaged: generalize collapse_huge_page for mTHP collapse Nico Pache
2026-05-22 21:47   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-26 14:42   ` Nico Pache
2026-05-31  9:39   ` Lance Yang
2026-05-31 20:00     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01  3:28       ` Lance Yang
2026-06-01  6:54         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01  7:49           ` Lance Yang
2026-06-01  8:15             ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01  8:44               ` Lance Yang [this message]
2026-06-01 10:09                 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01  9:08           ` Lance Yang
2026-06-01 10:23             ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 10:47               ` Lance Yang
2026-06-01 11:13                 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 07/14] mm/khugepaged: skip collapsing mTHP to smaller orders Nico Pache
2026-05-22 21:51   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 08/14] mm/khugepaged: add per-order mTHP collapse failure statistics Nico Pache
2026-05-31 20:09   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 14:13   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 09/14] mm/khugepaged: improve tracepoints for mTHP orders Nico Pache
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 10/14] mm/khugepaged: introduce collapse_allowable_orders helper function Nico Pache
2026-05-31 20:18   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 14:35     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-01 14:40       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 11/14] mm/khugepaged: Introduce mTHP collapse support Nico Pache
2026-05-25 14:15   ` Nico Pache
2026-05-25 19:10     ` Andrew Morton
2026-05-26  6:57       ` Wei Yang
2026-05-26 12:07         ` Nico Pache
2026-05-28  8:42           ` Wei Yang
2026-05-28 17:11             ` Nico Pache
2026-05-31  7:18   ` Lance Yang
2026-05-31  8:48     ` Lance Yang
2026-06-01 12:01       ` Nico Pache
2026-06-01 12:06         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01  8:11   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 12:40     ` Nico Pache
2026-06-01 13:15       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 12/14] mm/khugepaged: avoid unnecessary mTHP collapse attempts Nico Pache
2026-05-31  7:31   ` Lance Yang
2026-05-31 20:02     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01  1:53       ` Lance Yang
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 13/14] mm/khugepaged: run khugepaged for all orders Nico Pache
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 14/14] Documentation: mm: update the admin guide for mTHP collapse Nico Pache
2026-05-22 21:58   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-26 12:00     ` Nico Pache
2026-05-26 14:45   ` Nico Pache
2026-05-22 15:07 ` [PATCH mm-hotfixes-unstable v18 00/14] khugepaged: add mTHP collapse support Nico Pache
2026-05-22 15:13   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-05-22 16:11     ` Nico Pache
2026-05-22 21:13       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-22 15:16   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 16:08     ` Nico Pache
2026-05-22 16:19       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 16:31         ` Nico Pache
2026-05-22 17:12           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-26  8:14             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 15:13 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 20:47 ` Andrew Morton

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