From: Jouni Malinen <j@w1.fi>
To: Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>
Cc: Dan Williams <dcbw@redhat.com>,
Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Missing link quality with wireless-testing
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 09:31:04 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090218073104.GA23366@jm.kir.nu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1234933059.21412.28.camel@californication>
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 05:57:39AM +0100, Marcel Holtmann wrote:
> > Would setting qual->updated |= IW_QUAL_QUAL_INVALID; work for you? If
> > some app doesn't handle that, it's totally, completely broken.
>
> does wpa_supplicant handle this value correctly? I actually never
> checked that.
No, it doesn't use qual->updated at all. Then again, neither does it
rely on qual->qual either. The signal level (qual->level) is used first
and only if that is not available, qual->qual will be used in sorting
the results.
> However I think it is bad practice to abandon a value that has been
> previously set by mac80211 and remove it without any further warning. If
> a driver never set the value before it is a different story than
> mac80211 deciding to not set it any more from one kernel version to
> another one.
It would be interesting to know which applications depend only on
qual->qual values being there and cannot use qual->level. Anyway, I
would agree that it would be reasonable to fill in something in the
qual->qual field for now. It should be enough to do this in the wext
compat code (i.e., not changing anything in mac80211 and only touching
#ifdef CONFIG_WIRELESS_EXT blocks in net/wireless/scan.c). This would
provide somewhat useful value for applications that depend on a value
that was not really guaranteed to be there in the first place. I think I
would include the IW_QUAL_QUAL_INVALID flag anyway and just target the
broken apps with this workaround.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-02-18 7:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-02-17 18:52 Missing link quality with wireless-testing Marcel Holtmann
2009-02-17 19:43 ` Johannes Berg
2009-02-17 20:24 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-02-17 20:55 ` Johannes Berg
2009-02-17 21:09 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-02-17 23:25 ` Dan Williams
2009-02-18 4:57 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-02-18 7:31 ` Jouni Malinen [this message]
2009-02-18 8:06 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-02-18 8:25 ` Jouni Malinen
2009-02-18 12:18 ` Dan Williams
2009-02-18 12:33 ` Jouni Malinen
2009-02-18 12:48 ` Dan Williams
2009-02-18 13:20 ` Dan Williams
2009-02-18 14:01 ` Jouni Malinen
2009-02-18 14:25 ` Johannes Berg
2009-02-18 13:37 ` Johannes Berg
2009-02-18 15:13 ` Dan Williams
2009-02-18 16:48 ` Johannes Berg
2009-02-18 17:27 ` [PATCH] cfg80211/mac80211: fill qual.qual value/adjust max_qual.qual Johannes Berg
2009-02-18 17:29 ` Johannes Berg
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