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From: Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Cc: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Fixes for problems with off-channel powersave
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 23:34:13 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130117053413.GB31449@thinkpad-t410> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1358379163.15012.69.camel@jlt4.sipsolutions.net>

On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 12:32:43AM +0100, Johannes Berg wrote:
> On Wed, 2013-01-09 at 07:40 -0600, Seth Forshee wrote:
> 
> > > It turns out that fixing problem #1 (i.e. patch 2) probably isn't
> > > necessary with the other changes, as no frames should be sent while
> > > off-channel PS is enabled. Does this still seem like a problem worth
> > > fixing?
> > 
> > This is incorrect. We actually do need patch 2 for some hardware. I
> > forgot that when I was testing with BCM43224 I found that PM gets
> > actively set or cleared based on the device configuration. It's
> > impossible to enable PS at the AP without informing the driver.
> 
> Hm, don't understand. If we're not sending any packets to the AP, why
> does this matter?
> 
> Or are you saying it wants nullfunc frames generated in software, but
> then changes the PM bit in them?

Exactly. At least that's what it looks like to me. I lack detailed
knowledge of how to handle powersave on Broadcom, but I do know that the
PM bit is under the control of the MCTL_HPS field.  Experimentally it
appears that the hardware actively clears PM when this field is 0 and
actively sets it when this field is 1, for all frames including
nullfuncs.

Seth

  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-17  5:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-08 18:10 [RFC] Fixes for problems with off-channel powersave Seth Forshee
2013-01-08 18:10 ` [RFC 1/3] mac80211: Add flushes to ensure off-channel PS is enabled during sw scans Seth Forshee
2013-01-16 23:34   ` Johannes Berg
2013-01-17  5:34     ` Seth Forshee
2013-01-08 18:10 ` [RFC 2/3] mac80211: Convey information about off-channel powersave to drivers Seth Forshee
2013-01-08 18:10 ` [RFC 3/3] mac80211: Disable off-channel powersave when software scans are suspended Seth Forshee
2013-01-09 11:03   ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2013-01-09 13:27     ` Seth Forshee
2013-01-09 13:40 ` [RFC] Fixes for problems with off-channel powersave Seth Forshee
2013-01-16 23:32   ` Johannes Berg
2013-01-17  5:34     ` Seth Forshee [this message]
2013-01-25 21:36       ` Johannes Berg
2013-01-25 22:11         ` Adrian Chadd
2013-01-16 23:31 ` Johannes Berg
2013-01-17  5:32   ` Seth Forshee
2013-01-17  0:29 ` Johannes Berg
2013-01-17  5:35   ` Seth Forshee
2013-01-25 21:34     ` Johannes Berg
2013-01-25 22:16       ` Seth Forshee

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