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From: Bitterblue Smith <rtl8821cerfe2@gmail.com>
To: Ping-Ke Shih <pkshih@realtek.com>,
	"linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH rtw-next 0/5] wifi: rtw88: pci: Support an older design, like RTL8821AE/RTL8812AE
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2026 23:00:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ca4921aa-c8aa-4f88-880a-bc717aa103d4@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f5ec572f354f4c67a2a65b2b1676eae0@realtek.com>

On 29/10/2026 02:51, Ping-Ke Shih wrote:
> Bitterblue Smith <rtl8821cerfe2@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 27/10/2026 03:52, Ping-Ke Shih wrote:
>>> Bitterblue Smith <rtl8821cerfe2@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> This series extends rtw88_pci to support an older design, like
>>>> RTL8821AE, RTL8812AE, RTL8723BE, etc.
>>>
>>> The older design is own-bit ring, and the new is read/write index ring
>>> with buffer descriptor. Can we use 'own-bit' instead of 'old' as the file
>>> name ?
>>>
>>
>> Sure, the file name is not a problem. What about the code? All the functions
>> in pci_old.c are prefixed with "rtw_pci_old", and there is rtw_pci_gen_old
>> and rtw_pci_gen_new. Should I rename all of these?
> 
> I'd prefer having consistent suffix as file name, but I have no good idea
> for the suffix. Maybe, '_ob' means 'own-bit ring'?
> 

That works for me.

Maybe I will leave the renaming for the last version of the patches,
to avoid mixing it with the other changes.

>>>> rtw88 is not without problems, but in my experience it's more reliable
>>>> with these two chips. In the 6-8 months I used this code, I observed
>>>> these problems with rtw88:
>>>>
>>>>  * The top speed is a bit lower: ~220 Mbps instead of ~300 Mbps. In the
>>>>    case of TX, the difference is due to the EDCA parameters. rtw88 uses
>>>>    the ones from mac80211 (rtw_conf_tx()), whereas rtlwifi uses its own
>>>>    "turbo" values when there are not too many non-BE packets
>>>>    (rtl8821ae_dm_check_edca_turbo()). Not sure why the RX speed is
>>>>    lower.
>>>
>>> Maybe you can try to compare them by VO or VI packets?
>>>
>>
>> Do you mean for the TX speed comparison?
> 
> Yes.
> 

I just used the turbo value 0x5ea42b from rtlwifi. With that the rtw88 TX
speed matches rtlwifi.

>>>>
>>>>    It uses RX descriptor number 511, then number 0, then it doesn't
>>>>    want to use number 1 for "a while". It raises IMR_RDU once or twice,
>>>>    and only then it moves on to number 1, 2...
>>>>
>>>>    Usually when it raises IMR_RDU there are 510 or 511 RX descriptors
>>>>    available (out of 512), so it has no excuse.
>>>>
>>>>    Once it has raised IMR_RDU the RX speed doesn't exceed 70-100 Mbps
>>>>    anymore.
>>>
>>> If driver can receive packets on time, how does it raise ISR_RDU?
>>
>> It's a mystery for me.
>>
>>> Is RX interrupt triggered on time?
>>>
>>
>> I'm not sure how to check this. I assume it is triggered on time because
>> the ring was always nearly empty when it raised IMR_RDU.
> 
> If interrupt handler can handle (ignore) "empty" RX ring , it might be harmless
> to see raised IMR_RDU, right?

It is harmless in the sense that everything keeps working, just the RX
speed is low.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-10-29 21:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-23 22:57 [PATCH rtw-next 0/5] wifi: rtw88: pci: Support an older design, like RTL8821AE/RTL8812AE Bitterblue Smith
2026-10-23 22:59 ` [PATCH rtw-next 1/5] wifi: rtw88: Pass RX buffer to rtw_rx_query_rx_desc() Bitterblue Smith
2026-10-23 23:00 ` [PATCH rtw-next 2/5] wifi: rtw88: Pass TX descriptor to rtw_tx_fill_tx_desc() Bitterblue Smith
2026-10-23 23:01 ` [PATCH rtw-next 3/5] wifi: rtw88: pci: Introduce struct rtw_pci_gen Bitterblue Smith
2026-10-24  8:41   ` Luka Gejak
2026-10-28 21:26     ` Bitterblue Smith
2026-10-23 23:02 ` [PATCH rtw-next 4/5] wifi: rtw88: pci: Add functions to support older chips Bitterblue Smith
2026-10-24  8:36   ` Luka Gejak
2026-10-28 17:40     ` Bitterblue Smith
2026-10-23 23:05 ` [PATCH rtw-next 5/5] wifi: rtw88: pci: Handle more RX interrupts for RTL8821AE Bitterblue Smith
2026-10-27  1:52 ` [PATCH rtw-next 0/5] wifi: rtw88: pci: Support an older design, like RTL8821AE/RTL8812AE Ping-Ke Shih
2026-10-27  7:25   ` Luka Gejak
2026-10-27  8:07     ` Ping-Ke Shih
2026-10-28 17:41   ` Bitterblue Smith
2026-10-29  0:51     ` Ping-Ke Shih
2026-10-29  1:29       ` Ping-Ke Shih
2026-10-29 21:00       ` Bitterblue Smith [this message]
2026-10-30  0:43         ` Ping-Ke Shih

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