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From: Stelian Pop <stelian@popies.net>
To: Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz>
Cc: Peter Osterlund <petero2@telia.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Frank Arnold <frank@scirocco-5v-turbo.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Apple USB Touchpad driver (new)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 13:08:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1121080115.12627.44.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050711110024.GA23333@ucw.cz>

Le lundi 11 juillet 2005 à 13:00 +0200, Vojtech Pavlik a écrit :
> On Mon, Jul 11, 2005 at 12:39:31PM +0200, Stelian Pop wrote:
>  
> > > > Using a function like
> > > > 
> > > > 	return (x_old * 3 + x) / 4;
> > > > 
> > > > eliminates the need for a FIFO, and has similar (if not better)
> > > > properties to floating average, because its coefficients are
> > > > [ .25 .18 .14 .10 ... ].
> > > 
> > > Agreed.
> > 
> > Except that this does not work well enough.
> 
> I guess the quick motion compensation in input bites you. The above
> equation should do even more smoothing than regular 4-point floating
> average.

Possible. The 'fuzz' parameter in input core serves too many usages
ihmo. Let me try removing the quick motion compensation and see...

> > I already thought about this, one problem is that the sensors do not
> > report the pressure but only the amount of surface touched. A person
> > with thick fingers will always generate higher pressures then one with
> > thin ones, no matter how hard they push on the touchpad.
> 
> That's what all other touchpads do.

I thought the hardware is capable of calculating real pressure...

> > I don't think this value is reliable enough to be reported to the
> > userspace as ABS_PRESSURE...
> 
> I believe it'd still be more useful than a two-value (0 and 100) output.

Ok, I'll do it.

> > +			/*
> > +			 * in the future, we could add here code to search for
> > +			 * a second finger...
> > +			 * for now, scrolling using the synaptics X driver is
> > +			 * much more simpler to achieve.
> > +			 */
> 
> This could be quite useful, too, for right and middle button taps (2 and
> 3 fingers) - since the Macs lack these buttons.

Indeed. But this can be a later improvement, let's make one finger work
for now :)

Stelian.
-- 
Stelian Pop <stelian@popies.net>


  reply	other threads:[~2005-07-11 11:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-07-08 10:17 [PATCH] Apple USB Touchpad driver (new) Stelian Pop
2005-07-08 11:18 ` Johannes Berg
2005-07-08 12:10   ` Stelian Pop
2005-07-09 19:13     ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-07-09 22:48       ` Peter Osterlund
2005-07-10 12:04         ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-07-11  0:15           ` Peter Osterlund
2005-07-11 10:39             ` Stelian Pop
2005-07-11 11:00               ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-07-11 11:08                 ` Stelian Pop [this message]
2005-07-11 11:21                   ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-07-11 12:47                     ` Stelian Pop
2005-07-11 13:35                       ` Stelian Pop
2005-07-12  9:05                     ` Stelian Pop
2005-07-12 14:13                       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-07-12 14:33                         ` Stelian Pop
2005-07-12 14:47                           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-07-12 18:13                             ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-07-12 19:21                               ` Stelian Pop
     [not found]               ` <20050711035244.115067ac.akpm@osdl.org>
2005-07-11 11:04                 ` Stelian Pop
2005-07-11 13:25                   ` Peter Osterlund
2005-07-11 20:44                   ` Lee Revell
2005-07-11 20:54                     ` Stelian Pop
2005-07-11 13:48               ` Peter Osterlund
2005-07-11 10:47             ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-07-09 22:32     ` Peter Osterlund
2005-07-10 11:58       ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-07-11 10:06       ` Stelian Pop

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