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From: john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] time: Add locking to xtime access in get_seconds()
Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 23:21:35 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1304576495.2943.40.camel@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1304574244.32152.666.camel@edumazet-laptop>

On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 07:44 +0200, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> Le mercredi 04 mai 2011 à 19:54 -0700, john stultz a écrit :
> > On Tue, 2011-05-03 at 20:52 -0700, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > > John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org> writes:
> > > 
> > > > From: John Stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
> > > >
> > > > So get_seconds() has always been lock free, with the assumption
> > > > that accessing a long will be atomic.
> > > >
> > > > However, recently I came across an odd bug where time() access could
> > > > occasionally be inconsistent, but only on power7 hardware. The
> > > 
> > > Shouldn't a single rmb() be enough to avoid that?
> > > 
> > > If not then I suspect there's a lot more code buggy on that CPU than
> > > just the time.
> > 
> > So interestingly, I've found that the issue was not as complex as I
> > first assumed.  While the rmb() is probably a good idea for
> > get_seconds(), but it alone does not solve the issue I was seeing,
> > making it clear my theory wasn't correct.
> > 
> > The problem was reported against the 2.6.32-stable kernel, and had not
> > been seen in later kernels. I had assumed the change to logarithmic time
> > accumulation basically reduced the window for for the issue to be seen,
> > but it would likely still show up eventually.
> > 
> > When the rmb() alone did not solve this issue, I looked to see why the
> > locking did resolve it, and then it was clear: The old
> > update_xtime_cache() function doesn't set the xtime_cache values
> > atomically.
> > 
> > Now, the xtime_cache writing is done under the xtime_lock, so the
> > get_seconds() locking resolves the issue, but isn't appropriate since
> > get_seconds() is called from machine check handlers.
> > 
> > So the fix here for the 2.6.32-stable tree is to just update xtime_cache
> > in one go as done with the following patch.
> > 
> > I also added the rmb() for good measure, and the rmb() should probably
> > also go upstream since theoretically there maybe a platform that could
> > do out of order syscalls.
> > 
> > I suspect the reason this hasn't been triggered on x86 or power6 is due
> > to compiler or processor optimizations reordering the assignment to in
> > effect make it atomic. Or maybe the timing window to see the issue is
> > harder to observe?
> > 
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: John Stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
> > 
> > Index: linux-2.6.32.y/kernel/time/timekeeping.c
> > ===================================================================
> > --- linux-2.6.32.y.orig/kernel/time/timekeeping.c	2011-05-04 19:34:21.604314152 -0700
> > +++ linux-2.6.32.y/kernel/time/timekeeping.c	2011-05-04 19:39:09.972203989 -0700
> > @@ -168,8 +168,10 @@ int __read_mostly timekeeping_suspended;
> >  static struct timespec xtime_cache __attribute__ ((aligned (16)));
> >  void update_xtime_cache(u64 nsec)
> >  {
> > -	xtime_cache = xtime;
> > -	timespec_add_ns(&xtime_cache, nsec);
> > +	/* use temporary timespec so xtime_cache is updated atomically */
> 
> Atomically is not possible on 32bit platform, so this comment is
> misleading.

Well, 32bit/64bit, the time_t .tv_sec portion is a long, so it should be
written atomically. 

> What about a comment saying :
> 	/*
> 	 * use temporary variable so get_seconds() cannot catch
> 	 * intermediate value (one second backward)
> 	 */

Fair enough. Such a comment is an improvement.

> > +	struct timespec ts = xtime;
> > +	timespec_add_ns(&ts, nsec);
> > +	xtime_cache = ts;
> >  }
> >  
> >  /* must hold xtime_lock */
> > @@ -859,6 +861,7 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(monotonic_to_bootbased
> >  
> >  unsigned long get_seconds(void)
> >  {
> > +	rmb();
> 
> Please dont, this makes no sense, and with no comment anyway.

Would a comment to the effect of "ensure processors don't re-order calls
to get_seconds" help, or is it still too opaque (or even still
nonsense?).


thanks
-john



  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-05  6:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-04  3:11 [PATCH] time: Add locking to xtime access in get_seconds() John Stultz
2011-05-04  3:52 ` Andi Kleen
2011-05-05  2:54   ` john stultz
2011-05-05  5:44     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-05  6:21       ` john stultz [this message]
2011-05-05  6:50         ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-05  8:14         ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-05 18:51           ` john stultz
2011-05-05 14:04         ` [RFC] time: xtime_lock is held too long Eric Dumazet
2011-05-05 14:39           ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-05-05 15:08             ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-05 15:59               ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-05-05 21:01                 ` Andi Kleen
2011-05-06  1:41                   ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-06  6:55                     ` Andi Kleen
2011-05-06 10:18                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-05-06 10:22                     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-06 16:53                       ` Andi Kleen
2011-05-07  8:20                         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-06 16:59                     ` Andi Kleen
2011-05-06 17:09                       ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-06 17:17                         ` Andi Kleen
2011-05-06 17:42                       ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-06 17:50                         ` Andi Kleen
2011-05-06 19:26                           ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-06 20:04                             ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-06 20:24                               ` john stultz
2011-05-06 22:30                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-06 22:46                                   ` john stultz
2011-05-06 23:00                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-06 23:28                                       ` john stultz
2011-05-07  5:02                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-07  7:11                                           ` Henrik Rydberg
2011-05-09  8:40                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-05-12  9:13                                           ` [PATCH] seqlock: don't smp_rmb in seqlock reader spin loop, [PATCH] seqlock: don't smp_rmb in seqlock reader spin loop Milton Miller
2011-05-12  9:35                                             ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-12 14:08                                             ` Andi Kleen
2011-05-06 20:18                         ` [RFC] time: xtime_lock is held too long john stultz
2011-05-05 17:57     ` [PATCH] time: Add locking to xtime access in get_seconds() Andi Kleen
2011-05-05 20:17       ` john stultz
2011-05-05 20:24         ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-05 20:40           ` john stultz
2011-05-05 20:43             ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-05 20:56         ` Andi Kleen
2011-05-04 16:51 ` Max Asbock
2011-05-04 21:05   ` Andi Kleen
2011-05-04 23:05   ` john stultz

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