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From: "Chen, Yu C" <yu.c.chen@intel.com>
To: Luo Gengkun <luogengkun2@huawei.com>
Cc: <adamli@os.amperecomputing.com>, <aubrey.li@intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] sched/cache: Reduce the overhead of task_cache_work by only scan the visisted cpus.
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2026 11:10:43 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1ae149cd-7b36-4625-8e93-daf45aaac080@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260414150745.225416-1-luogengkun2@huawei.com>

Hi Gengkun,

On 4/14/2026 11:07 PM, Luo Gengkun wrote:
> The overhead of task_cache_work is high, espeically in multi-NUMA system.
> Currently, task_cache_work try to find the pref_llc by scan all cpus in the
> system. However, most of these scans are meaningless, such as those for
> cpus that have never been visited or were accessed a long time ago.
> 
> To address this problem, this patch introduces visited_cpus to track the
> visited cpus and uses llc_epoch_visited_timeout to evict cpus that have
> timed out.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Luo Gengkun <luogengkun2@huawei.com>
> ---
> Thanks for the reviews. I've updated the patch based on your feedback.
> 
> v2 Changes:
> 1. Added a pre-check before set/clear visited_cpus to avoid C2C overhead.
> 2. Optimized llc_epoch_visited_timeout by using a static key to minimize overhead.

Since the visited CPUs optimization should help reduce the scan cost,
I wonder if we should enable it by default, regardless of the timeout
value set by the user. This mainly helps avoid introducing extra debugfs
controls/static key.

>   #ifdef CONFIG_PREEMPT_DYNAMIC
> @@ -669,6 +717,8 @@ static __init int sched_init_debug(void)
>   	llc = debugfs_create_dir("llc_balancing", debugfs_sched);
>   	debugfs_create_file("enabled", 0644, llc, NULL,
>   			    &sched_cache_enable_fops);
> +	debugfs_create_file("epoch_visited_timeout", 0644, llc, NULL,
> +			    &sched_cache_timeout_enable_fops);

Is it possible to reuse llc_epoch_affinity_timeout without introducing
epoch_visited_timeout? The idea is that if a task has not run on that CPU
for 10 ms (by default), its footprint will be cleared.

[ ... ]

> @@ -1736,8 +1746,17 @@ static void task_cache_work(struct callback_head *work)
>   				continue;
>   
>   			for_each_cpu(i, sched_domain_span(sd)) {
> -				occ = fraction_mm_sched(cpu_rq(i),
> -							per_cpu_ptr(mm->sc_stat.pcpu_sched, i));
> +				struct rq *rq = cpu_rq(i);
> +				struct sched_cache_time *pcpu_sched = per_cpu_ptr(mm->sc_stat.pcpu_sched, i);
> +				/* Skip the rq that has not been hit for a long time */
> +				if (sched_cache_timeout_enabled() &&
> +				    cpumask_test_cpu(cpu_of(rq), &mm->sc_stat.visited_cpus) &&

cpumask_test_cpu(i) should be fine. The rq access above doesn't hold 
cpu_epoch_lock.
I wonder if we can safely calculate rq->cpu_epoch - pcpu_sched->epoch
inside fraction_mm_sched while holding the lock?

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I'll test your patch after fixing the bug reported by sashiko.dev.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

thanks,
Chenyu





  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-15  3:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-01 21:52 [Patch v4 00/22] Cache aware scheduling Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 01/22] sched/cache: Introduce infrastructure for cache-aware load balancing Tim Chen
2026-04-09 12:41   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-09 19:21     ` Tim Chen
2026-04-09 23:00       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-10  6:30         ` Chen, Yu C
2026-04-15  2:06   ` Vern Hao
2026-04-15  3:34     ` Chen, Yu C
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 02/22] sched/cache: Limit the scan number of CPUs when calculating task occupancy Tim Chen
2026-04-09 13:17   ` Luo Gengkun
2026-04-09 13:41     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-10 10:12       ` Luo Gengkun
2026-04-10  7:29     ` Chen, Yu C
2026-04-10 10:20       ` Luo Gengkun
2026-04-10 17:12       ` Tim Chen
2026-04-10 17:27         ` Chen, Yu C
2026-04-13  7:23           ` [RFC PATCH] sched/fair: dynamically scale the period of cache work Jianyong Wu
2026-04-13  8:38             ` Chen, Yu C
2026-04-13 11:27               ` Jianyong Wu
2026-04-15  3:31                 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-04-16  3:39                   ` Jianyong Wu
2026-04-15 17:22             ` Tim Chen
2026-04-14 15:07           ` [PATCH v2] sched/cache: Reduce the overhead of task_cache_work by only scan the visisted cpus Luo Gengkun
2026-04-15  3:10             ` Chen, Yu C [this message]
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 03/22] sched/cache: Record per LLC utilization to guide cache aware scheduling decisions Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 04/22] sched/cache: Introduce helper functions to enforce LLC migration policy Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 05/22] sched/cache: Make LLC id continuous Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 06/22] sched/cache: Assign preferred LLC ID to processes Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 07/22] sched/cache: Track LLC-preferred tasks per runqueue Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 08/22] sched/cache: Introduce per CPU's tasks LLC preference counter Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 09/22] sched/cache: Calculate the percpu sd task LLC preference Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 10/22] sched/cache: Count tasks prefering destination LLC in a sched group Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 11/22] sched/cache: Check local_group only once in update_sg_lb_stats() Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 12/22] sched/cache: Prioritize tasks preferring destination LLC during balancing Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 13/22] sched/cache: Add migrate_llc_task migration type for cache-aware balancing Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 14/22] sched/cache: Handle moving single tasks to/from their preferred LLC Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 15/22] sched/cache: Respect LLC preference in task migration and detach Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 16/22] sched/cache: Disable cache aware scheduling for processes with high thread counts Tim Chen
2026-04-09 12:43   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-09 19:27     ` Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 17/22] sched/cache: Avoid cache-aware scheduling for memory-heavy processes Tim Chen
2026-04-09 12:46   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-09 12:55     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-10  8:59     ` Chen, Yu C
2026-04-10  9:20       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 18/22] sched/cache: Enable cache aware scheduling for multi LLCs NUMA node Tim Chen
2026-04-09 13:37   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-09 19:39     ` Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 19/22] sched/cache: Allow the user space to turn on and off cache aware scheduling Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 20/22] sched/cache: Add user control to adjust the aggressiveness of cache-aware scheduling Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 21/22] -- DO NOT APPLY!!! -- sched/cache/debug: Display the per LLC occupancy for each process via proc fs Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 22/22] -- DO NOT APPLY!!! -- sched/cache/debug: Add ftrace to track the load balance statistics Tim Chen
2026-04-09 13:54 ` [Patch v4 00/22] Cache aware scheduling Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-09 20:02   ` Tim Chen
2026-04-14  3:20 ` Duan Tingyin
2026-04-15 17:35   ` Tim Chen
2026-04-16  0:27 ` Qais Yousef

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