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From: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
To: Jianyong Wu <wujianyong@hygon.cn>,
	yu.c.chen@intel.com,  luogengkun2@huawei.com
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	 ziqianlu@bytedance.com, tim.c.chen@intel.com,
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	huangsj@hygon.cn
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] sched/fair: dynamically scale the period of cache work
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2026 10:22:35 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <81e67b0e9f4b2e85024e57d461b2a7eef9d21f5b.camel@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260413072309.2663668-1-wujianyong@hygon.cn>

On Mon, 2026-04-13 at 15:23 +0800, Jianyong Wu wrote:
> When a preferred LLC is selected and remains stable, task_cache_work does
> not need to run frequently. Because it scans all system CPUs for
> computation, high-frequency execution hurts performance. We thus reduce
> the scan rate in such cases.
> 

Thanks for your patch proposal.

> On the other hand, if the preferred node becomes suboptimal, we should

You mean preferred LLC right? preferred node is from NUMA balancing.

> increase the scan frequency to quickly find a better placement. The scan
> period is therefore dynamically adjusted.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Jianyong Wu <wujianyong@hygon.cn>
> 
> ---
> Hi ChenYu, Tim, Gengkun,
> 
> I have another approach to address this issue, based on the observation
> that the scan work can be canceled if the preferred node is stable.This
> patch merely demonstrates the idea, but still needs more testing to
> verify its functionality. I'm sending it out early to gather feedback and
> opinions.
> 
> 

<...>

> @@ -1822,9 +1835,35 @@ static void task_cache_work(struct callback_head *work)
>  		 * 3. 2X is chosen based on test results, as it delivers
>  		 *    the optimal performance gain so far.
>  		 */
> -		mm->sc_stat.cpu = m_a_cpu;
> +		if (m_a_occ > (2 * curr_m_a_occ))
> +			mm->sc_stat.cpu = m_a_cpu;
> +
> +		if (!mm->sc_stat.last_reset_tick)
> +			mm->sc_stat.last_reset_tick = now;
> +
> +		/* Change scan_period when preferred LLC changed */
> +		if (((mm->sc_stat.cpu != -1) && (m_a_cpu != -1)
> +			&& (llc_id(mm->sc_stat.cpu) != llc_id(m_a_cpu)))
> +			|| need_scan) {
> +			if (!need_scan)
> +				need_scan = 1;
> +
> +			WRITE_ONCE(mm->sc_stat.scan_period,
> +				max(mm->sc_stat.scan_period >> 1, llc_scan_period_min));
> +			WRITE_ONCE(mm->sc_stat.last_reset_tick, now);
> +               }
> +	}
> +
> +	if ((now - READ_ONCE(mm->sc_stat.last_reset_tick) > llc_scan_period_threshold)
> +		&& !need_scan) {
> +		WRITE_ONCE(mm->sc_stat.scan_period, min(mm->sc_stat.scan_period << 1,
> +			llc_scan_period_max));

I think that llc_scan_period_max should be the same as llc_epoch_affinity_timeout.
We should not increase the scan period beyond that as that's the time scale
where we consider cache data relevant.  

Tim



  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-04-15 17:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-01 21:52 [Patch v4 00/22] Cache aware scheduling Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 01/22] sched/cache: Introduce infrastructure for cache-aware load balancing Tim Chen
2026-04-09 12:41   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-09 19:21     ` Tim Chen
2026-04-09 23:00       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-10  6:30         ` Chen, Yu C
2026-04-15  2:06   ` Vern Hao
2026-04-15  3:34     ` Chen, Yu C
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 02/22] sched/cache: Limit the scan number of CPUs when calculating task occupancy Tim Chen
2026-04-09 13:17   ` Luo Gengkun
2026-04-09 13:41     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-10 10:12       ` Luo Gengkun
2026-04-10  7:29     ` Chen, Yu C
2026-04-10 10:20       ` Luo Gengkun
2026-04-10 17:12       ` Tim Chen
2026-04-10 17:27         ` Chen, Yu C
2026-04-13  7:23           ` [RFC PATCH] sched/fair: dynamically scale the period of cache work Jianyong Wu
2026-04-13  8:38             ` Chen, Yu C
2026-04-13 11:27               ` Jianyong Wu
2026-04-15  3:31                 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-04-16  3:39                   ` Jianyong Wu
2026-04-15 17:22             ` Tim Chen [this message]
2026-04-16  6:50               ` Jianyong Wu
2026-04-14 15:07           ` [PATCH v2] sched/cache: Reduce the overhead of task_cache_work by only scan the visisted cpus Luo Gengkun
2026-04-15  3:10             ` Chen, Yu C
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 03/22] sched/cache: Record per LLC utilization to guide cache aware scheduling decisions Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 04/22] sched/cache: Introduce helper functions to enforce LLC migration policy Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 05/22] sched/cache: Make LLC id continuous Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 06/22] sched/cache: Assign preferred LLC ID to processes Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 07/22] sched/cache: Track LLC-preferred tasks per runqueue Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 08/22] sched/cache: Introduce per CPU's tasks LLC preference counter Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 09/22] sched/cache: Calculate the percpu sd task LLC preference Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 10/22] sched/cache: Count tasks prefering destination LLC in a sched group Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 11/22] sched/cache: Check local_group only once in update_sg_lb_stats() Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 12/22] sched/cache: Prioritize tasks preferring destination LLC during balancing Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 13/22] sched/cache: Add migrate_llc_task migration type for cache-aware balancing Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 14/22] sched/cache: Handle moving single tasks to/from their preferred LLC Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 15/22] sched/cache: Respect LLC preference in task migration and detach Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 16/22] sched/cache: Disable cache aware scheduling for processes with high thread counts Tim Chen
2026-04-09 12:43   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-09 19:27     ` Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 17/22] sched/cache: Avoid cache-aware scheduling for memory-heavy processes Tim Chen
2026-04-09 12:46   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-09 12:55     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-10  8:59     ` Chen, Yu C
2026-04-10  9:20       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 18/22] sched/cache: Enable cache aware scheduling for multi LLCs NUMA node Tim Chen
2026-04-09 13:37   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-09 19:39     ` Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 19/22] sched/cache: Allow the user space to turn on and off cache aware scheduling Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 20/22] sched/cache: Add user control to adjust the aggressiveness of cache-aware scheduling Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 21/22] -- DO NOT APPLY!!! -- sched/cache/debug: Display the per LLC occupancy for each process via proc fs Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 22/22] -- DO NOT APPLY!!! -- sched/cache/debug: Add ftrace to track the load balance statistics Tim Chen
2026-04-09 13:54 ` [Patch v4 00/22] Cache aware scheduling Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-09 20:02   ` Tim Chen
2026-04-14  3:20 ` Duan Tingyin
2026-04-15 17:35   ` Tim Chen
2026-04-16  0:27 ` Qais Yousef

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