public inbox for linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: jbradford@dial.pipex.com
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch] IDE driver model update
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 23:57:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20021008215728.GA841@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200210081325.g98DP6MY000340@darkstar.example.net>

Hi!

> > > > _ALL_ buses that have driverfs support (IDE, SCSI, USB, PCI) have their
> > > > own rules for lifetimes of their structures.  And that's not likely to
> > > > change - these objects belong to drivers and in some cases (IDE) are
> > > > not even allocated dynamically - they are reused if nothing is holding
> > > > them.
> > > 
> > > IDE objects can also outlast the hardware - consider an active mount on
> > > an ejected pcmcia card. Right now we don't do the right stuff to
> > > reconnect that on re-insert but one day we may need to. As it is we keep
> > > the instance around to avoid crashes
> > 
> > Ouch.  That (reconnects) may require interesting things from queue-related
> > code.  What behaviour do you want while card is disconnected?  All requests
> > getting errors / all requests getting blocked / reads failing, writes blocking?
> 
> This raises the interesting possibility of being able to refer to
> things like removable media directly, instead of the device the media
> is inserted in.
> 
> The Amiga was doing this years ago.  You could access floppy drives
> as, E.G. df0:, df1:, etc, but if you formatted a volume and called it
> foobar, you could access foobar: no matter which floppy drive you put
> it in to.
> 
> Also, Plan 9 does similar interesting things - you can do the equivilent of:
> 
> ls /internet/websites/kernel.org/
> 
> and treat the website as a filesystem.

uservfs.sf.net, and you can do similar stuff on linux.
									Pavel
-- 
I'm pavel@ucw.cz. "In my country we have almost anarchy and I don't care."
Panos Katsaloulis describing me w.r.t. patents at discuss@linmodems.org

  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-10-09  9:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-10-07 19:30 [patch] IDE driver model update Patrick Mochel
2002-10-07 19:31 ` Patrick Mochel
2002-10-07 19:31 ` Patrick Mochel
2002-10-11 23:06   ` Pavel Machek
2002-10-07 19:31 ` Patrick Mochel
2002-10-07 22:42   ` Alexander Viro
2002-10-07 22:51     ` Patrick Mochel
2002-10-07 22:58       ` Alexander Viro
2002-10-07 23:06         ` Patrick Mochel
2002-10-08  2:17           ` Alexander Viro
2002-10-08 12:21             ` Alan Cox
2002-10-08 12:24               ` Alexander Viro
2002-10-08 13:05                 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-08 19:18                   ` Andries Brouwer
2002-10-08 13:25                 ` jbradford
2002-10-08 14:31                   ` Ketil Froyn
2002-10-08 21:34                     ` Xavier Bestel
2002-10-08 21:57                   ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2002-10-08 15:05                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-10-08 18:43             ` Patrick Mochel
2002-10-08 20:47               ` [RFC] embedded struct device " Alexander Viro
2002-10-08 21:29                 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-10-08 21:42                   ` Alexander Viro
2002-10-08 21:53                     ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-10-08 21:57                       ` Patrick Mochel
2002-10-08 22:51                         ` Alan Cox
2002-10-08 21:54                     ` Patrick Mochel
2002-10-08 22:12                     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-10-08 22:48                       ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-10-08 23:28                         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-10-08 22:29                     ` Greg KH
2002-10-08 21:30                 ` Greg KH

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20021008215728.GA841@elf.ucw.cz \
    --to=pavel@ucw.cz \
    --cc=jbradford@dial.pipex.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox