From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, mingo@elte.hu
Subject: Re: x86: disable preemption in delay_tsc()
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:52:34 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071115195234.2dc8406d.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071115194116.12c7a0f6@laptopd505.fenrus.org>
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:41:16 -0800 Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 04:00:47 GMT
> Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org> wrote:
>
> > Gitweb:
> > http://git.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=35d5d08a085c56f153458c3f5d8ce24123617faf
> > Commit: 35d5d08a085c56f153458c3f5d8ce24123617faf Parent:
> > 7eea436433b7b18045f272562e256976f593f7c0 Author: Andrew Morton
> > <akpm@linux-foundation.org> AuthorDate: Wed Nov 14 17:00:41 2007 -0800
> > Committer: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@woody.linux-foundation.org>
> > CommitDate: Wed Nov 14 18:45:44 2007 -0800
> >
> > x86: disable preemption in delay_tsc()
> >
> > Marin Mitov points out that delay_tsc() can misbehave if it is
> > preempted and rescheduled on a different CPU which has a skewed TSC.
> > Fix it by disabling preemption.
> >
>
> this worries me.. this appears to effectively disable preemption during
> udelay() and mdelay() loops... which are very obvious latency inducers.
>
> Now you can argue that if you're preemptible you should have used
> msleep() and co, and I'll totally buy that.
>
>
> Maybe we should just check if we're still on the same cpu or something,
> or have a cheap way to pin a process to a cpu.... but both are longer
> term solutions.
>
Yes, we can do better.
But this bug can cause very rare failures in probably a large number of
device drivers on a minorty of machines. Ugly. So I felt it best to
plug it fast while people think about more sophisticated fixes.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-11-16 3:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <200711150400.lAF40lIr020160@hera.kernel.org>
2007-11-16 3:41 ` x86: disable preemption in delay_tsc() Arjan van de Ven
2007-11-16 3:52 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2007-11-16 6:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-16 7:08 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-16 7:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-16 7:26 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-16 8:08 ` Avi Kivity
2007-11-16 8:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-16 8:47 ` [patch] x86: make delay_tsc() preemptible again Ingo Molnar
2007-11-16 9:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-11-16 10:50 ` Ingo Molnar
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