From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>,
linux arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] prepare kconfig inline optimization for all architectures
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 20:22:35 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080427172235.GA2252@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0804271002360.2896@woody.linux-foundation.org>
On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 10:06:41AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, 27 Apr 2008, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> >
> > My opinion on this is still:
> > "OPTIMIZE" means "work around bugs in the kernel".
>
> No.
>
> It means that
>
> - gcc used to (long ago) always honor "inline", and we had kernel code
> that depended on that in various ways (ie required that there was no
> return etc).
>
> We've been mostly replacing the ones we know about with
> "__always_inline", but there may be some that remain. We'll find out, I
> guess.
>
> - gcc was a total and utter piece of horrible crap in the inlining
> department, doign insane things and changing their documentation to
> match the new behaviour (and some people then claimed that it was
> always documented that way).
>
> It would not inline big functions even when they statically collapsed
> to nothing, etc.
>
> As a result, we really couldn't afford to let gcc make any inlining
> decisions, because the compiler was simply *broken*.
I'm looking at it from a different angle, all code in the kernel should
follow the following rules [1]:
- no functions in .c files should be marked inline
- all functions in headers should be static inline
- all functions in headers should either be very small or collapse
to become very small after inlining
I can simply not see any usecase for a non-forced inline in the kernel,
and fixing the kernel should give a superset of the space savings of
this "inline optimization".
> Linus
cu
Adrian
[1] there might be rare exceptions
--
"Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
"Only a promise," Lao Er said.
Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-04-27 17:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-04-27 10:51 [PATCH] prepare kconfig inline optimization for all architectures Sam Ravnborg
2008-04-27 11:31 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-27 11:56 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-04-27 12:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-27 12:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-27 17:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-27 17:22 ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2008-04-27 17:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-27 17:47 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-27 18:00 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-04-27 18:09 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-04-27 18:14 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-04-27 18:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-27 18:32 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-04-27 19:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-27 19:49 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-27 23:26 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-27 23:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-27 23:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-27 18:31 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-04-27 18:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-04-27 18:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-27 18:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-04-27 18:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-27 18:41 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-27 18:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-27 20:51 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-04-27 17:57 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-04-27 17:40 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-04-27 17:59 ` Adrian Bunk
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