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From: Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
	Glauber Costa <glommer@redhat.com>,
	Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com>,
	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy.fitzhardinge@citrix.com>,
	kurt.hackel@oracle.com, the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Glauber de Oliveira Costa <gcosta@redhat.com>,
	Xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	Keir Fraser <keir.fraser@eu.citrix.com>,
	zach.brown@oracle.com, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 3/5] x86/pvclock: add vsyscall implementation
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:03:09 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091029130309.GA2750@think> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4AE986FE.3040104@redhat.com>

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 02:13:50PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 10/28/2009 07:47 PM, Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
> >>Much better to have an API for this.  Life is hacky enough already.
> >My point is that if an app cares about property X then it should just
> >measure property X.  The fact that gettimeofday is a vsyscall is just an
> >implementation detail that apps don't really care about.  What they care
> >about is whether gettimeofday is fast or not.
> 
> But we can not make a reliable measurement.

I can't imagine how we'd decide what fast is?  Please don't make the
applications guess.

-chris

  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-29 13:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-06  0:50 [PATCH RFC] Extending pvclock down to usermode for vsyscall Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-10-06  0:50 ` [PATCH 1/5] x86/pvclock: make sure rdtsc doesn't speculate out of region Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-10-06  0:50 ` [PATCH 2/5] x86/pvclock: no need to use strong read barriers in pvclock_get_time_values Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-10-06  0:50 ` [PATCH 3/5] x86/pvclock: add vsyscall implementation Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-10-06  9:04   ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-06 14:19     ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-10-06 15:11       ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-06 18:46     ` [Xen-devel] " Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-10-07 10:25       ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-07 19:29         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-10-07 20:09           ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-07 21:19             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-10-07 21:37               ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-07 21:51                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-10-07 21:53                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-07 20:48         ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-10-07 21:08           ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-07 22:36             ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-10-10  0:24         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-10-10 18:10           ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-12 18:20             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-10-12 18:29               ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-12 19:13                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-10-13  6:39                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-13 20:00                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-10-14 12:32                       ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-15 19:17                         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-10-27 17:29                         ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-10-27 18:20                           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-10-28  5:52                             ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-28  9:29                               ` Glauber Costa
2009-10-28  9:34                                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-28 17:47                                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-10-29 12:13                                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-29 13:03                                       ` Chris Mason [this message]
2009-10-29 14:46                                       ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-10-29 15:07                                         ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-29 15:55                                           ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-10-29 16:15                                             ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-11-01  9:28                                               ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-02 15:28                                                 ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-11-02 15:41                                                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-01  9:32                                             ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-02 15:46                                               ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-11-03  5:12                                                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-04 20:30                                                   ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-11-05  6:47                                                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-05 14:52                                                       ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-11-05 15:07                                                         ` Keir Fraser
2009-11-04 21:19                                           ` john stultz
2009-11-04 21:28                                             ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-11-05  0:02                                               ` john stultz
2009-11-05  0:45                                                 ` Dan Magenheimer
2009-10-06  0:50 ` [PATCH 4/5] x86/fixmap: add a predicate for usermode fixmaps Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-10-06 10:23   ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2009-10-06 18:47     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-10-06  0:50 ` [PATCH 5/5] xen/time: add pvclock_clocksource_vread support Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-10-06 10:28   ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2009-10-06 18:48     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge

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