From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
John Kacur <jkacur@redhat.com>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] procfs: Kill the bkl in ioctl
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 23:41:00 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100331214058.GE5163@nowhere> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201003312221.23953.arnd@arndb.de>
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 10:21:23PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Wednesday 31 March 2010 19:22:11 Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:33:40AM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > > I believe we can actually remove ioctl from file_operations. The patch I did
> > > to convert all users to ".unlocked_ioctl = default_ioctl," should really catch
> > > all cases, and I think we can enforce this by renaming fops->ioctl to locked_ioctl
> > > or old_ioctl to make sure we didn't miss any, and then mandate that this one
> > > is only used when unlocked_ioctl is set to default_ioctl.
> >
> > I just looked at the patch in question and noted that the changelog
> > is pretty high, but how could it be else.
> > Actually it's not that large, but highly spread:
> <snip>
> > 157 files changed, 372 insertions(+), 80 deletions(-)
> >
> >
> > I wonder if we should actually just turn all these into unlocked_ioctl
> > directly. And then bring a warn on ioctl, and finally schedule the removal
> > of this callback.
> >
> > What do you think?
>
> I don't think the warning helps all that much, at least not across an
> entire release. We could leave it in for the merge window and fix all
> users for -rc1, then submit a patch that kills everything that came
> in during the merge window and remove it completely in -rc2.
>
> Getting rid of ioctl completely is a lot of work though, covering the
> entire lot of ~150 device drivers. I think the patch as is (or the
> variant renaming .ioctl to .locked_ioctl) is far less work and has
> less potential of introducing regressions.
>
> > You plan looks good but I fear this actually carries the problem forward
> > in that we won't be able to remove .ioctl after that.
> >
> > I can handle that if you agree.
>
> I don't think we really need to get rid of it this soon in the obsolete
> drivers, pushing down the BKL into an unlocked_ioctl function only slightly
> shifts the problem around, since the driver still depends on the BKL then
> and gets disabled if you build with CONFIG_BKL=n.
Hmm, yeah you're right actually. Since we have this CONFIG_BKL thing
plus a future check to prevent from people implementing new ioctl
(checking ioctl without default_ioctl), it's actually better than
a big pushdown as it's less invasive.
> In the meantime, we can move the declaration of the .locked_ioctl callback
> into an #ifdef CONFIG_BKL, to make sure nobody builds a driver with an
> ioctl function that does not get called.
Ok, now how to get this all merged? A single monolithic patch is probably
not appropriate.
The simplest is to have a single branch with the default_ioctl implemented,
and then attributed to drivers in a set cut by subsystems/drivers. And
push the whole for the next -rc1.
The other solution is to push default_ioctl for this release and get
the driver changes to each concerned tree. That said, I suspect a good
part of them are unmaintained, hence the other solution looks better
to me.
Hmm?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-03-31 21:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-03-30 6:20 [PATCH 0/6] Kill the bkl in procfs Frederic Weisbecker
2010-03-30 6:20 ` [PATCH 1/6] procfs: Kill BKL in llseek on proc base Frederic Weisbecker
2010-03-30 6:40 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-03-30 6:50 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-03-30 6:20 ` [PATCH 2/6] procfs: Use generic_file_llseek in /proc/kcore Frederic Weisbecker
2010-03-30 10:28 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-03-30 6:20 ` [PATCH 3/6] procfs: Use generic_file_llseek in /proc/kmsg Frederic Weisbecker
2010-03-30 10:38 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-03-30 6:20 ` [PATCH 4/6] procfs: Use generic_file_llseek in /proc/vmcore Frederic Weisbecker
2010-03-30 10:38 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-03-30 6:20 ` [PATCH 5/6] procfs: Push down the bkl from ioctl Frederic Weisbecker
2010-03-30 6:31 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-03-30 7:02 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-04-09 14:45 ` [PATCH v2] " Frederic Weisbecker
2010-04-10 13:25 ` [PATCH v3] " Frederic Weisbecker
2010-05-17 1:23 ` [PATCH v4] " Frederic Weisbecker
2010-03-30 10:37 ` [PATCH 5/6] " Arnd Bergmann
2010-03-30 18:27 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-03-30 18:54 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-03-30 19:21 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-03-30 6:20 ` [PATCH 6/6] procfs: Kill the bkl in ioctl Frederic Weisbecker
2010-03-30 6:38 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-03-30 7:07 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-03-30 10:33 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-03-31 17:22 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-03-31 20:21 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-03-31 21:04 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-03-31 21:55 ` Alan Cox
2010-04-01 9:07 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-03-31 21:56 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-04-01 11:37 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-01 10:22 ` John Kacur
2010-03-31 21:41 ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2010-04-01 12:42 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-03 17:53 ` Stefan Richter
2010-04-10 16:09 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-04-12 15:05 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-10 16:14 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-04-10 16:24 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-04-01 11:39 ` Stefan Richter
2010-04-01 12:45 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-10 15:28 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-04-11 13:03 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-04-12 17:34 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-12 21:53 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-04-13 9:26 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-13 20:10 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-04-13 18:03 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-04-10 13:27 ` [PATCH 0/6] Kill the bkl in procfs Frederic Weisbecker
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