From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Nicolas Boichat <drinkcat@chromium.org>
Cc: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>,
devel@driverdev.osuosl.org, lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Media Mailing List <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] media: atomisp: Only use trace_printk if allowed
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 20:36:01 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200820203601.4f70bf98@oasis.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANMq1KCoEZVj=sjxCqBhqLZKBab57+82=Rk_LN7fc3aCuNHMUw@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, 21 Aug 2020 08:13:00 +0800
Nicolas Boichat <drinkcat@chromium.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 10:23 PM Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 17:14:12 +0800
> > Nicolas Boichat <drinkcat@chromium.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Technically, we could only initialize the trace_printk buffers
> > > when the print env is switched, to avoid the build error and
> > > unconditional boot-time warning, but I assume this printing
> > > framework will eventually get removed when the driver moves out
> > > of staging?
> >
> > Perhaps this should be converting into a trace event. Look at what bpf
> > did for their bpf_trace_printk().
> >
> > The more I think about it, the less I like this series.
>
> To make it clear, the primary goal of this series is to get rid of
> trace_printk sprinkled in the kernel by making sure some randconfig
> builds fail. Since my v2, there already has been one more added (the
> one that this patch removes), so I'd like to land 2/3 ASAP to prevent
> even more from being added.
>
> Looking at your reply on 1/3, I think we are aligned on that goal? Is
> there some other approach you'd recommend?
>
> Now, I'm not pretending my fixes are the best possible ones, but I
> would much rather have the burden of converting to trace events on the
> respective driver maintainers. (btw is there a short
> documentation/tutorial that I could link to in these patches, to help
> developers understand what is the recommended way now?)
>
I like the goal, but I guess I never articulated the problem I have
with the methodology.
trace_printk() is meant to be a debugging tool. Something that people
can and do sprinkle all over the kernel to help them find a bug in
areas that are called quite often (where printk() is way too slow).
The last thing I want them to deal with is adding a trace_printk() with
their distro's config (or a config from someone that triggered the bug)
only to have the build to fail, because they also need to add a config
value.
I add to the Cc a few developers I know that use trace_printk() in this
fashion. I'd like to hear their view on having to add a config option
to make trace_printk work before they test a config that is sent to
them.
-- Steve
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-08-21 0:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-08-20 9:14 [PATCH v4 1/3, RESEND] media: camss: vfe: Use trace_printk for debugging only Nicolas Boichat
2020-08-20 9:14 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] kernel/trace: Add TRACING_ALLOW_PRINTK config option Nicolas Boichat
2020-08-20 9:14 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] media: atomisp: Only use trace_printk if allowed Nicolas Boichat
2020-08-20 14:23 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-08-21 0:13 ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-08-21 0:36 ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2020-08-21 1:39 ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-08-21 1:57 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-08-21 2:36 ` Joe Perches
2020-08-21 2:42 ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-08-21 2:49 ` Joe Perches
2020-08-21 3:04 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-08-21 3:08 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-08-21 2:44 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-08-21 2:39 ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-08-21 3:01 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-08-21 12:19 ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-08-21 8:48 ` David Laight
2020-08-21 10:27 ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-08-21 11:32 ` David Laight
2020-08-21 12:07 ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-08-21 12:18 ` David Laight
2020-08-21 12:37 ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-08-20 14:21 ` [PATCH v4 1/3, RESEND] media: camss: vfe: Use trace_printk for debugging only Steven Rostedt
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