From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: 'Nicolas Boichat' <drinkcat@chromium.org>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"Andy Shevchenko" <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>,
"devel@driverdev.osuosl.org" <devel@driverdev.osuosl.org>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Linux Media Mailing List" <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v4 3/3] media: atomisp: Only use trace_printk if allowed
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 11:32:29 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <898c56e4b7ef4c3da1d634fdef5a8898@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANMq1KBvNqcdCsuDGGygYqS5+ZBw+qSVXTC+WWNycypG2=BRMQ@mail.gmail.com>
From: Nicolas Boichat
> Sent: 21 August 2020 11:28
>
> On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 4:48 PM David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Steven Rostedt
> > > Sent: 21 August 2020 01:36
> > > On Fri, 21 Aug 2020 08:13:00 +0800
> > > Nicolas Boichat <drinkcat@chromium.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 10:23 PM Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 17:14:12 +0800
> > > > > Nicolas Boichat <drinkcat@chromium.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Technically, we could only initialize the trace_printk buffers
> > > > > > when the print env is switched, to avoid the build error and
> > > > > > unconditional boot-time warning, but I assume this printing
> > > > > > framework will eventually get removed when the driver moves out
> > > > > > of staging?
> > > > >
> > > > > Perhaps this should be converting into a trace event. Look at what bpf
> > > > > did for their bpf_trace_printk().
> > > > >
> > > > > The more I think about it, the less I like this series.
> > > >
> > > > To make it clear, the primary goal of this series is to get rid of
> > > > trace_printk sprinkled in the kernel by making sure some randconfig
> > > > builds fail. Since my v2, there already has been one more added (the
> > > > one that this patch removes), so I'd like to land 2/3 ASAP to prevent
> > > > even more from being added.
> > > >
> > > > Looking at your reply on 1/3, I think we are aligned on that goal? Is
> > > > there some other approach you'd recommend?
> > > >
> > > > Now, I'm not pretending my fixes are the best possible ones, but I
> > > > would much rather have the burden of converting to trace events on the
> > > > respective driver maintainers. (btw is there a short
> > > > documentation/tutorial that I could link to in these patches, to help
> > > > developers understand what is the recommended way now?)
> > > >
> > >
> > > I like the goal, but I guess I never articulated the problem I have
> > > with the methodology.
> > >
> > > trace_printk() is meant to be a debugging tool. Something that people
> > > can and do sprinkle all over the kernel to help them find a bug in
> > > areas that are called quite often (where printk() is way too slow).
> > >
> > > The last thing I want them to deal with is adding a trace_printk() with
> > > their distro's config (or a config from someone that triggered the bug)
> > > only to have the build to fail, because they also need to add a config
> > > value.
> > >
> > > I add to the Cc a few developers I know that use trace_printk() in this
> > > fashion. I'd like to hear their view on having to add a config option
> > > to make trace_printk work before they test a config that is sent to
> > > them.
> >
> > Is it worth having three compile-time options:
> > 1) trace_printk() ignored.
>
> CONFIG_TRACE=n (now)
>
> > 2) trace_printk() enabled.
>
> CONFIG_TRACE=y (now)
>
> > 3) trace_printk() generates a compile time error.
>
> CONFIG_TRACE=y and CONFIG_TRACING_ALLOW_PRINTK=n (my patch)
>
> >
> > Normal kernel builds would ignore calls.
> > Either a config option or a module option (etc) would enable it.
> > A config option that 'rand-config' builds would turn on would
> > generate compile-time errors.
>
> Yes, a config option is exactly what my patch 2/2 does. And see
> Steven's argument.
But you were adding #ifs to you code to enable the traces.
That is just horrid.
What you want is CONFIG_HJHJVLKHCVKIYVKIIYVYKIYVLUCLUCL=y (default n)
that would only ever get set by a 'rand-config' build and would
never be tested in any source code.
You might also want a #define that can set temporarily
to enable traces in a specific file/module even though
CONFIG_TRACE=n.
(But rand-config builds would still fail if they enabled the
'special' option.)
David.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-08-21 11:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-08-20 9:14 [PATCH v4 1/3, RESEND] media: camss: vfe: Use trace_printk for debugging only Nicolas Boichat
2020-08-20 9:14 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] kernel/trace: Add TRACING_ALLOW_PRINTK config option Nicolas Boichat
2020-08-20 9:14 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] media: atomisp: Only use trace_printk if allowed Nicolas Boichat
2020-08-20 14:23 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-08-21 0:13 ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-08-21 0:36 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-08-21 1:39 ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-08-21 1:57 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-08-21 2:36 ` Joe Perches
2020-08-21 2:42 ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-08-21 2:49 ` Joe Perches
2020-08-21 3:04 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-08-21 3:08 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-08-21 2:44 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-08-21 2:39 ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-08-21 3:01 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-08-21 12:19 ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-08-21 8:48 ` David Laight
2020-08-21 10:27 ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-08-21 11:32 ` David Laight [this message]
2020-08-21 12:07 ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-08-21 12:18 ` David Laight
2020-08-21 12:37 ` Nicolas Boichat
2020-08-20 14:21 ` [PATCH v4 1/3, RESEND] media: camss: vfe: Use trace_printk for debugging only Steven Rostedt
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