From: Nam Cao <namcao@linutronix.de>
To: Gabriele Monaco <gmonaco@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Tomas Glozar <tglozar@redhat.com>, Juri Lelli <jlelli@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 7/9] rv: Retry when da monitor detects race conditions
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2025 06:52:25 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250411045225.gP4DqmFt@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250404084512.98552-18-gmonaco@redhat.com>
On Fri, Apr 04, 2025 at 10:45:20AM +0200, Gabriele Monaco wrote:
> DA monitor can be accessed from multiple cores simultaneously, this is
> likely, for instance when dealing with per-task monitors reacting on
> events that do not always occur on the CPU where the task is running.
> This can cause race conditions where two events change the next state
> and we see inconsistent values. E.g.:
>
> [62] event_srs: 27: sleepable x sched_wakeup -> running (final)
> [63] event_srs: 27: sleepable x sched_set_state_sleepable -> sleepable
> [63] error_srs: 27: event sched_switch_suspend not expected in the state running
>
> In this case the monitor fails because the event on CPU 62 wins against
> the one on CPU 63, although the correct state should have been
> sleepable, since the task get suspended.
>
> Detect if the current state was modified by using try_cmpxchg while
> storing the next value. If it was, try again reading the current state.
> After a maximum number of failed retries, react as if it was an error
> with invalid current state (we cannot determine it).
>
> Monitors where this type of condition can occur must be able to account
> for racing events in any possible order, as we cannot know the winner.
Is locking not simpler? I understand raw_spin_lock() doesn't work because
it steps on some tracepoints. But how about adding something like
raw_spin_lock_notrace()?
static inline bool raw_spin_lock_notrace(raw_spinlock_t *lock)
{
preempt_disable_notrace(); //probably not required, tracepoint handlers do this already
if (!do_raw_spin_trylock(lock))
do_raw_spin_lock(lock);
}
My LTL series theoretically also has this problem, but I have never got it
during testing yet. We should use the same solution for both DA and LTL.
Also, can you please Cc me in your RV patches?
Best regards,
Nam
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-04-11 4:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-04-04 8:45 [RFC PATCH 0/9] rv: Add monitors to validate task switch Gabriele Monaco
2025-04-04 8:45 ` [RFC PATCH 1/9] tools/rv: Do not skip idle in trace Gabriele Monaco
2025-04-04 8:45 ` [RFC PATCH 2/9] tools/rv: Stop gracefully also on SIGTERM Gabriele Monaco
2025-04-04 8:45 ` [RFC PATCH 3/9] rv: Add da_handle_start_run_event_ to per-task monitors Gabriele Monaco
2025-04-04 8:45 ` [RFC PATCH 4/9] rv: Remove trailing whitespace from tracepoint string Gabriele Monaco
2025-04-04 8:45 ` [RFC PATCH 5/9] sched: Add sched tracepoints for RV task model Gabriele Monaco
2025-04-04 8:45 ` [RFC PATCH 6/9] sched: Treat try_to_block_task with pending signal as wakeup Gabriele Monaco
2025-04-13 15:05 ` Nam Cao
2025-04-14 10:31 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-04-15 11:04 ` Nam Cao
2025-04-15 11:30 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-04-16 9:20 ` Nam Cao
2025-04-16 11:42 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-04-04 8:45 ` [RFC PATCH 7/9] rv: Retry when da monitor detects race conditions Gabriele Monaco
2025-04-11 4:52 ` Nam Cao [this message]
2025-04-11 6:09 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-04-04 8:45 ` [RFC PATCH 8/9] rv: Replace tss monitor with more complete sts Gabriele Monaco
2025-04-04 8:45 ` [RFC PATCH 9/9] rv: Add srs per-task monitor Gabriele Monaco
2025-04-10 8:53 ` Juri Lelli
2025-04-11 6:12 ` Gabriele Monaco
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20250411045225.gP4DqmFt@linutronix.de \
--to=namcao@linutronix.de \
--cc=gmonaco@redhat.com \
--cc=jlelli@redhat.com \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=mingo@redhat.com \
--cc=peterz@infradead.org \
--cc=rostedt@goodmis.org \
--cc=tglozar@redhat.com \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox