From: Aaron Lu <ziqianlu@bytedance.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>,
K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
Josh Don <joshdon@google.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Xi Wang <xii@google.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Chengming Zhou <chengming.zhou@linux.dev>,
Chuyi Zhou <zhouchuyi@bytedance.com>,
Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
Florian Bezdeka <florian.bezdeka@siemens.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/7] sched/fair: Take care of group/affinity/sched_class change for throttled task
Date: Mon, 26 May 2025 19:36:50 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250526113352.GA2993700@bytedance> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250523145942.GL39944@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 04:59:42PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 08:49:43PM +0800, Aaron Lu wrote:
> > On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 02:03:36PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>
> > > This is asymmetric -- dequeue removes it from that throttle list, but
> > > the corresponding enqueue will not add it back, what gives?
> > >
> > > Because now we have:
> > >
> > > p->on_rq=1
> > > p->throttle_node on list
> > >
> > > move_queued_task()
> > > deactivate_task()
> > > dequeue_task_fair()
> > > list_del_init(throttle_node)
> > > p->on_rq = 2
> > >
> > > activate_task()
> > > enqueue_task_fair()
> > > // nothing special, makes the thing runnable
> > > p->on_rq = 1;
> > >
> > > and we exit with a task that is on-rq and not throttled ?!?
> > >
> > > Why is this? Are we relying on pick_task_fair() to dequeue it again and
> > > fix up our inconsistencies? If so, that had better have a comment on.
> >
> > Correct.
>
> But would it not be better to have enqueue bail when we're trying to
> enqueue an already throttled task into a throttled cfs_rq?
>
> It seems a waste to do the actual enqueue, pick, dequeue when we
> could've just avoided all that.
>
The original idea is to keep code simple but surely this can be
optimized. I'm working on it and will paste diff here once I get it
work.
Thanks,
Aaron
> The immediate problem seems to be that you destroy the
> task_is_throttled() state on dequeue, but surely that is trivially
> fixable by not keeping that state in the list.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-26 11:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-20 10:41 [PATCH 0/7] Defer throttle when task exits to user Aaron Lu
2025-05-20 10:41 ` [PATCH 1/7] sched/fair: Add related data structure for task based throttle Aaron Lu
2025-05-21 8:48 ` Chengming Zhou
2025-05-20 10:41 ` [PATCH 2/7] sched/fair: prepare throttle path " Aaron Lu
2025-05-20 12:02 ` Florian Bezdeka
2025-05-21 6:37 ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-21 11:51 ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-21 9:01 ` Chengming Zhou
2025-05-21 9:21 ` [External] " Aaron Lu
2025-05-22 11:43 ` Chengming Zhou
2025-05-23 8:03 ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-22 10:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-22 11:44 ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-22 11:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-22 12:40 ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-23 9:53 ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-23 10:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-23 11:17 ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-22 11:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-23 7:40 ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-29 11:51 ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-30 5:36 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-05-30 11:02 ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-23 12:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-20 10:41 ` [PATCH 3/7] sched/fair: prepare unthrottle " Aaron Lu
2025-05-20 10:41 ` [PATCH 4/7] sched/fair: Take care of group/affinity/sched_class change for throttled task Aaron Lu
2025-05-22 12:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-22 12:49 ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-23 14:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-26 11:36 ` Aaron Lu [this message]
2025-05-27 6:58 ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-27 11:19 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-05-27 11:54 ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-27 14:16 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-05-23 2:43 ` Chengming Zhou
2025-05-23 7:56 ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-23 9:13 ` Chengming Zhou
2025-05-23 9:42 ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-23 9:53 ` Chengming Zhou
2025-05-23 11:59 ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-26 13:14 ` Chengming Zhou
2025-05-20 10:41 ` [PATCH 5/7] sched/fair: switch to task based throttle model Aaron Lu
2025-05-20 10:41 ` [PATCH 6/7] sched/fair: task based throttle time accounting Aaron Lu
2025-05-20 10:41 ` [PATCH 7/7] sched/fair: get rid of throttled_lb_pair() Aaron Lu
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