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From: Aaron Lu <ziqianlu@bytedance.com>
To: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Josh Don <joshdon@google.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Xi Wang <xii@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Chengming Zhou <chengming.zhou@linux.dev>,
	Chuyi Zhou <zhouchuyi@bytedance.com>,
	Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	Florian Bezdeka <florian.bezdeka@siemens.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/7] sched/fair: prepare throttle path for task based throttle
Date: Fri, 30 May 2025 19:02:17 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250530105120.GA1117158@bytedance> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <10df58c2-cb24-4be8-846f-3e708ff04dc9@amd.com>

Hi Prateek,

On Fri, May 30, 2025 at 11:06:52AM +0530, K Prateek Nayak wrote:
> Hello Aaron,
> 
> On 5/29/2025 5:21 PM, Aaron Lu wrote:
> > A side note, now that check_cfs_rq_runtime() only marks cfs_rq's
> > throttle status and returns a signal, it no longer does dequeuing
> > stuffs, I suppose there is no need to call it in put_prev_entity()?
> 
> But perhaps it is needed to queue the bandwidth timer via
> __assign_cfs_rq_runtime() if the cfs_rq had built up slack when the last
> task was dequeued?
> 
> Otherwise, the throttle will only be noted at the time of pick and the
> timer will only start then but check_cfs_rq_runtime() in
> put_prev_entity() and check_enqueue_throttle() could have already
> spotted a slack and queued the timer which can ensure bandwidth is
> available sooner and reduce latency.
> 
> Let me know if I'm terribly mistaken :)
> 

Sounds reasonable to me, thanks for the insight!

Best wishes,
Aaron

> > Because that signal is now only useful in pick time and we always run
> > check_cfs_rq_runtime() on every cfs_rq encountered during pick.> Also,
> > check_enqueue_throttle() doesn't look useful either because
> > enqueued task will go through pick and we will add a throttle work to it
> > if needed. I removed these stuffs and run some tests, didn't notice
> > anything wrong yet but perhaps I missed something, comments?
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Aaron
> 
> -- 
> Thanks and Regards,
> Prateek
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-30 11:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-20 10:41 [PATCH 0/7] Defer throttle when task exits to user Aaron Lu
2025-05-20 10:41 ` [PATCH 1/7] sched/fair: Add related data structure for task based throttle Aaron Lu
2025-05-21  8:48   ` Chengming Zhou
2025-05-20 10:41 ` [PATCH 2/7] sched/fair: prepare throttle path " Aaron Lu
2025-05-20 12:02   ` Florian Bezdeka
2025-05-21  6:37     ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-21 11:51       ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-21  9:01   ` Chengming Zhou
2025-05-21  9:21     ` [External] " Aaron Lu
2025-05-22 11:43       ` Chengming Zhou
2025-05-23  8:03         ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-22 10:48   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-22 11:44     ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-22 11:54       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-22 12:40         ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-23  9:53           ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-23 10:52             ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-23 11:17               ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-22 11:07   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-23  7:40     ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-29 11:51       ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-30  5:36         ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-05-30 11:02           ` Aaron Lu [this message]
2025-05-23 12:35   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-20 10:41 ` [PATCH 3/7] sched/fair: prepare unthrottle " Aaron Lu
2025-05-20 10:41 ` [PATCH 4/7] sched/fair: Take care of group/affinity/sched_class change for throttled task Aaron Lu
2025-05-22 12:03   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-22 12:49     ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-23 14:59       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-26 11:36         ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-27  6:58           ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-27 11:19             ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-05-27 11:54               ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-27 14:16                 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-05-23  2:43   ` Chengming Zhou
2025-05-23  7:56     ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-23  9:13       ` Chengming Zhou
2025-05-23  9:42         ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-23  9:53           ` Chengming Zhou
2025-05-23 11:59             ` Aaron Lu
2025-05-26 13:14               ` Chengming Zhou
2025-05-20 10:41 ` [PATCH 5/7] sched/fair: switch to task based throttle model Aaron Lu
2025-05-20 10:41 ` [PATCH 6/7] sched/fair: task based throttle time accounting Aaron Lu
2025-05-20 10:41 ` [PATCH 7/7] sched/fair: get rid of throttled_lb_pair() Aaron Lu

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