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From: Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>
To: Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>
Cc: Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	 David Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>,
	Simona Vetter <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	 Andrzej Hajda <andrzej.hajda@intel.com>,
	Neil Armstrong <neil.armstrong@linaro.org>,
	 Robert Foss <rfoss@kernel.org>,
	Laurent Pinchart <Laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	 Jonas Karlman <jonas@kwiboo.se>,
	Jernej Skrabec <jernej.skrabec@gmail.com>,
	 Jyri Sarha <jyri.sarha@iki.fi>,
	Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ideasonboard.com>,
	 Devarsh Thakkar <devarsht@ti.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/29] drm/atomic: Document atomic state lifetime
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2025 11:22:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250923-quantum-resolute-crayfish-681be7@penduick> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d807d181-6b14-4711-b297-72dcd49b4937@suse.de>

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Hi Thomas,

On Tue, Sep 02, 2025 at 03:08:12PM +0200, Thomas Zimmermann wrote:
> > + *     or a newer one if a commit has been made. The new state is the
> > + *     state we just allocated and we might eventually commit to the
> > + *     hardware. The existing state points to the state we'll eventually
> > + *     have to free, the new state for now.
> 
> That final sentence is confusing. What are we doing with the existing state?

After the other cleanup series I have, existing state is only ever used
to point to the state we should free.

> Will the old state ever become the existing state? You also never explain
> this below.

Yes, after we run an atomic commit. If the commit is only allocated and
freed, or if the atomic is only checked, then we'll free new state. It's
what I tried to explain in the next paragraph, but maybe it's not clear
enough?

> Maybe only focus on the old and new state for now and explain the meaning of
> the existing state in a separate bullet point.

I'll try to do that then, thanks!

> > + *
> > + *   + Once we run a commit, it is first checked and if the check is
> > + *     successful, it is committed. Part of the commit is a call to
> > + *     drm_atomic_helper_swap_state() which will turn the new state into
> > + *     the active state. Doing so involves updating the entity state
> > + *     pointer (&drm_crtc.state or similar) to point to the new state,
> > + *     and the existing state will now point to the old state, that used
> > + *     to be active but isn't anymore.
> > + *
> > + *   + When the commit is done, and when all references to our &struct
> > + *     drm_atomic_state are put, drm_atomic_state_clear() runs and will
> > + *     free all the old states.
> > + *
> > + *   + Now, we don't have any active &struct drm_atomic_state anymore,
> > + *     and only the entity active states remain allocated.
> > + */

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-09-23  9:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-02  8:32 [PATCH 00/29] drm: Implement state readout support Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 01/29] drm/atomic: Document atomic state lifetime Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:08   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-02 18:59     ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-23  9:22     ` Maxime Ripard [this message]
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 02/29] drm/atomic: Fix unused but set warning in for_each_old_plane_in_state Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:10   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-02 19:25   ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 03/29] drm/atomic: Fix unused but set warning in for_each_old_private_obj_in_state Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:10   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-02 19:26   ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 04/29] drm/atomic_helper: Skip over NULL private_obj pointers Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:13   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-02 19:29     ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-23  9:23     ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 05/29] drm/atomic_state_helper: Fix bridge state initialization Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:18   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-15 11:27     ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-15 13:12       ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-23  9:33         ` Maxime Ripard
2025-10-01  6:45           ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-15 12:54     ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-09-02 19:49   ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 06/29] drm/bridge: Implement atomic_print_state Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:22   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-02 20:22     ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-15 11:28       ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-15 12:56         ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 07/29] drm/atomic: Implement drm_atomic_print_old_state Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:26   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-09 12:44     ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 20:35   ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 08/29] drm/atomic: Only call atomic_destroy_state on a !NULL pointer Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:30   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-02 20:52   ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-15 11:35     ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 09/29] drm/modeset: Create atomic_reset hook Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 21:04   ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-15 11:37     ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 10/29] drm/atomic: Add atomic_state_readout infrastructure Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:44   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-15  8:42     ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-15  9:11       ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-23  9:37         ` Maxime Ripard
2025-10-01  7:01           ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-15 18:38       ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-09-23  9:38         ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-23 10:28           ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-09-23 10:32             ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-23 10:43               ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-09-23 11:41                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-23 15:20                   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-09-24  9:56               ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-24  9:53             ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-15 18:40   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-09-23  9:45     ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-23 10:30       ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-10-17 13:12         ` Simona Vetter
2025-10-17 13:29   ` Simona Vetter
2025-10-17 13:41   ` Simona Vetter
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 11/29] drm/crtc: Drop no_vblank bit field Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:45   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-30 10:00   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 12/29] drm/atomic_helper: Pass nonblock to commit_tail Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:46   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 13/29] drm/atomic_helper: Compare actual and readout states once the commit is done Maxime Ripard
2025-10-17 13:21   ` Simona Vetter
2025-10-21  9:27   ` Simona Vetter
2025-10-31 21:01   ` Simona Vetter
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 14/29] drm/atomic_state_helper: Provide comparison macros Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 15/29] drm/atomic_state_helper: Provide atomic_compare_state helpers Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 16/29] drm/encoder: Create get_current_crtc hook Maxime Ripard
2025-10-17 13:19   ` Simona Vetter
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 17/29] drm/bridge_connector: Implement hw readout for connector Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 18/29] drm/tidss: Convert to drm logging Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:49   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-30 10:00   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 19/29] drm/tidss: Remove ftrace-like logs Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:50   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-30 10:00   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 20/29] drm/tidss: crtc: Change variable name Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:51   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-30 10:00   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 21/29] drm/tidss: crtc: Implement destroy_state Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:52   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-30 10:00   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 22/29] drm/tidss: crtc: Cleanup reset implementation Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:54   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-30 10:00   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 23/29] drm/tidss: dispc: Add format lookup by hw value Maxime Ripard
2025-10-08 12:40   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 24/29] drm/tidss: dispc: Improve mode checking logs Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 14:06   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 25/29] drm/tidss: dispc: Move dispc_device definition to headers Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 26/29] drm/tidss: dispc: make accessors accessible to other parts of the driver Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 27/29] drm/tidss: Implement readout support Maxime Ripard
2025-10-08 12:44   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 28/29] drm/tidss: encoder: implement get_current_crtc Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 29/29] drm/bridge: sii902x: Implement hw state readout Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 14:13 ` [PATCH 00/29] drm: Implement state readout support Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-23  9:15   ` Maxime Ripard
2025-10-17 13:11     ` Simona Vetter
2025-10-08 13:07 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2025-10-08 13:57   ` Maxime Ripard
2025-10-08 14:15     ` Tomi Valkeinen

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