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From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@oss.qualcomm.com>
Cc: Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	David Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>, Simona Vetter <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	Andrzej Hajda <andrzej.hajda@intel.com>,
	Neil Armstrong <neil.armstrong@linaro.org>,
	Robert Foss <rfoss@kernel.org>, Jonas Karlman <jonas@kwiboo.se>,
	Jernej Skrabec <jernej.skrabec@gmail.com>,
	Jyri Sarha <jyri.sarha@iki.fi>,
	Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ideasonboard.com>,
	Devarsh Thakkar <devarsht@ti.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/29] drm/atomic: Add atomic_state_readout infrastructure
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2025 14:41:16 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250923114116.GC20765@pendragon.ideasonboard.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6s3tqwwpb4syypxo4hic4mgchdexjxvfvzmk3eordn3fpvoqw5@6pj24rhxhyls>

On Tue, Sep 23, 2025 at 01:43:29PM +0300, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2025 at 01:32:23PM +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 23, 2025 at 01:28:57PM +0300, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
> > > On Tue, Sep 23, 2025 at 11:38:17AM +0200, Maxime Ripard wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Sep 15, 2025 at 09:38:44PM +0300, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, Sep 15, 2025 at 10:42:22AM +0200, Maxime Ripard wrote:
> > > > > > On Tue, Sep 02, 2025 at 03:44:54PM +0200, Thomas Zimmermann wrote:
> > > > > > > > +/**
> > > > > > > > + * drm_atomic_build_readout_state - Creates an initial state from the hardware
> > > > > > > > + * @dev: DRM device to build the state for
> > > > > > > > + *
> > > > > > > > + * This function allocates a &struct drm_atomic_state, calls the
> > > > > > > > + * atomic_readout_state callbacks, and fills the global state old states
> > > > > > > > + * by what the callbacks returned.
> > > > > > > > + *
> > > > > > > > + * Returns:
> > > > > > > > + *
> > > > > > > > + * A partially initialized &struct drm_atomic_state on success, an error
> > > > > > > > + * pointer otherwise.
> > > > > > > > + */
> > > > > > > > +static struct drm_atomic_state *
> > > > > > > > +drm_atomic_build_readout_state(struct drm_device *dev)
> > > > > > > > +{
> > > > > > > > +	struct drm_connector_list_iter conn_iter;
> > > > > > > > +	struct drm_atomic_state *state;
> > > > > > > > +	struct drm_mode_config *config =
> > > > > > > > +		&dev->mode_config;
> > > > > > > > +	struct drm_connector *connector;
> > > > > > > > +	struct drm_printer p =
> > > > > > > > +		drm_info_printer(dev->dev);
> > > > > > > > +	struct drm_encoder *encoder;
> > > > > > > > +	struct drm_plane *plane;
> > > > > > > > +	struct drm_crtc *crtc;
> > > > > > > > +	int ret;
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +	drm_dbg_kms(dev, "Starting to build atomic state from hardware state.\n");
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +	state = drm_atomic_state_alloc(dev);
> > > > > > > > +	if (WARN_ON(!state))
> > > > > > > > +		return ERR_PTR(-ENOMEM);
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +	state->connectors = kcalloc(config->num_connector, sizeof(*state->connectors), GFP_KERNEL);
> > > > > > > > +	if (WARN_ON(!state->connectors)) {
> > > > > > > > +		ret = -ENOMEM;
> > > > > > > > +		goto err_state_put;
> > > > > > > > +	}
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +	state->private_objs = kcalloc(count_private_obj(dev), sizeof(*state->private_objs), GFP_KERNEL);
> > > > > > > > +	if (WARN_ON(!state->private_objs)) {
> > > > > > > > +		ret = -ENOMEM;
> > > > > > > > +		goto err_state_put;
> > > > > > > > +	}
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +	drm_for_each_crtc(crtc, dev) {
> > > > > > > > +		const struct drm_crtc_funcs *crtc_funcs =
> > > > > > > > +			crtc->funcs;
> > > > > > > > +		struct drm_crtc_state *crtc_state;
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +		drm_dbg_kms(dev, "Initializing CRTC %s state.\n", crtc->name);
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +		if (crtc_funcs->atomic_readout_state) {
> > > > > > > > +			crtc_state = crtc_funcs->atomic_readout_state(crtc);
> > > > > > > > +		} else if (crtc_funcs->reset) {
> > > > > > > > +			crtc_funcs->reset(crtc);
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +			/*
> > > > > > > > +			 * We don't want to set crtc->state field yet. Let's save and clear it up.
> > > > > > > > +			 */
> > > > > > > > +			crtc_state = crtc->state;
> > > > > > > > +			crtc->state = NULL;
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Chancing the crtc->state pointer behind the back of the reset callback seems
> > > > > > > fragile. We never how if some other piece of the driver refers to it
> > > > > > > (although illegally).
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I agree that it's clunky. I'm not sure who would use it at this point
> > > > > > though: we're in the middle of the drm_mode_config_reset(), so the
> > > > > > drivers' involvement is pretty minimal.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I did wonder if changing reset to return the object instead of setting
> > > > > > $OBJECT->state would be a better interface?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > For now, wouldn't it be better to require a read-out helper for all elements
> > > > > > > of the driver's mode-setting pipeline?  The trivial implementation would
> > > > > > > copy the existing reset function and keep crtc->state to NULL.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I also considered that, but I'm not sure we can expect bridges to have
> > > > > > readout hooks filled for every configuration in the wild.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > But maybe we can look during drm_mode_config_reset() at whether all the
> > > > > > objects have their hook filled, and if not fall back on reset for
> > > > > > everything.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > It would make the implementation easier, but missing bridges
> > > > > > implementations would trigger a mode change when it might actually work
> > > > > > just fine since bridge state is pretty minimal.
> > > > > 
> > > > > DP bridge drivers have a pretty big state (DPCD and all the features).
> > > > 
> > > > I meant drm_bridge_state. Subclasses would have their own implementation
> > > > anyway.
> > > > 
> > > > > Other bridge drivers randomly leak state to the non-state structs.
> > > > 
> > > > I'm not sure what you mean by that though. Can you expand?
> > > 
> > > I think I've seen bridge drivers which stored subclassed drm_bridge
> > > instead of drm_bridge_state or stored the data in the long-living data
> > > structures. YEs, that's a bug, which should be fixed on its own.
> > 
> > There's one exception to the "all state in state structure" rules if I
> > understand things correctly (and I'm mentioning it here partly to be
> > corrected if my understanding is wrong). Active state data that needs to
> > be accessed from a non-sleepable context need to be copied to the
> > device-specific structure when the state is applied, as we can't take
> > the mutex protecting state access there.
> 
> I'd even relax this slightly (please correct me if I'm wrong here): the
> state can be extracted to the device-specific structure in
> atomic_pre_enable() and cleared in atomic_post_disable().

Overall I agree. I think this should be minimized when reasonably
possible to avoid data duplication though.

> Likewise it's generally fine to store non-state changing data in the
> private data (e.g. hw params or infoframe from the HDMI codec data).

Most hardware parameters are a translation of the software state. I
would store them in the state when possible (e.g. when they need to be
computed at atomic check time, and when the computation is expensive
enough to make caching useful), and store in private data only the data
that needs to also be accessed from a location where state access is not
easily possible.

> > I'd expect that to be uncommon
> > for bridges.

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-23 11:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-02  8:32 [PATCH 00/29] drm: Implement state readout support Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 01/29] drm/atomic: Document atomic state lifetime Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:08   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-02 18:59     ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-23  9:22     ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 02/29] drm/atomic: Fix unused but set warning in for_each_old_plane_in_state Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:10   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-02 19:25   ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 03/29] drm/atomic: Fix unused but set warning in for_each_old_private_obj_in_state Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:10   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-02 19:26   ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 04/29] drm/atomic_helper: Skip over NULL private_obj pointers Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:13   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-02 19:29     ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-23  9:23     ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 05/29] drm/atomic_state_helper: Fix bridge state initialization Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:18   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-15 11:27     ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-15 13:12       ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-23  9:33         ` Maxime Ripard
2025-10-01  6:45           ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-15 12:54     ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-09-02 19:49   ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 06/29] drm/bridge: Implement atomic_print_state Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:22   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-02 20:22     ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-15 11:28       ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-15 12:56         ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 07/29] drm/atomic: Implement drm_atomic_print_old_state Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:26   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-09 12:44     ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 20:35   ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 08/29] drm/atomic: Only call atomic_destroy_state on a !NULL pointer Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:30   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-02 20:52   ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-15 11:35     ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 09/29] drm/modeset: Create atomic_reset hook Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 21:04   ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-15 11:37     ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 10/29] drm/atomic: Add atomic_state_readout infrastructure Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:44   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-15  8:42     ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-15  9:11       ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-23  9:37         ` Maxime Ripard
2025-10-01  7:01           ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-15 18:38       ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-09-23  9:38         ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-23 10:28           ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-09-23 10:32             ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-23 10:43               ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-09-23 11:41                 ` Laurent Pinchart [this message]
2025-09-23 15:20                   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-09-24  9:56               ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-24  9:53             ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-15 18:40   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-09-23  9:45     ` Maxime Ripard
2025-09-23 10:30       ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-10-17 13:12         ` Simona Vetter
2025-10-17 13:29   ` Simona Vetter
2025-10-17 13:41   ` Simona Vetter
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 11/29] drm/crtc: Drop no_vblank bit field Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:45   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-30 10:00   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 12/29] drm/atomic_helper: Pass nonblock to commit_tail Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:46   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 13/29] drm/atomic_helper: Compare actual and readout states once the commit is done Maxime Ripard
2025-10-17 13:21   ` Simona Vetter
2025-10-21  9:27   ` Simona Vetter
2025-10-31 21:01   ` Simona Vetter
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 14/29] drm/atomic_state_helper: Provide comparison macros Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 15/29] drm/atomic_state_helper: Provide atomic_compare_state helpers Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 16/29] drm/encoder: Create get_current_crtc hook Maxime Ripard
2025-10-17 13:19   ` Simona Vetter
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 17/29] drm/bridge_connector: Implement hw readout for connector Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 18/29] drm/tidss: Convert to drm logging Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:49   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-30 10:00   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 19/29] drm/tidss: Remove ftrace-like logs Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:50   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-30 10:00   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 20/29] drm/tidss: crtc: Change variable name Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:51   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-30 10:00   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 21/29] drm/tidss: crtc: Implement destroy_state Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:52   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-30 10:00   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 22/29] drm/tidss: crtc: Cleanup reset implementation Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 13:54   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-30 10:00   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 23/29] drm/tidss: dispc: Add format lookup by hw value Maxime Ripard
2025-10-08 12:40   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 24/29] drm/tidss: dispc: Improve mode checking logs Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 14:06   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 25/29] drm/tidss: dispc: Move dispc_device definition to headers Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 26/29] drm/tidss: dispc: make accessors accessible to other parts of the driver Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 27/29] drm/tidss: Implement readout support Maxime Ripard
2025-10-08 12:44   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 28/29] drm/tidss: encoder: implement get_current_crtc Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02  8:32 ` [PATCH 29/29] drm/bridge: sii902x: Implement hw state readout Maxime Ripard
2025-09-02 14:13 ` [PATCH 00/29] drm: Implement state readout support Thomas Zimmermann
2025-09-23  9:15   ` Maxime Ripard
2025-10-17 13:11     ` Simona Vetter
2025-10-08 13:07 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2025-10-08 13:57   ` Maxime Ripard
2025-10-08 14:15     ` Tomi Valkeinen

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