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From: Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com>
To: Christian Loehle <christian.loehle@arm.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	Tim C Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>, Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	ricardo.neri@intel.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/4] sched/fair: Allow load balancing between CPUs of identical capacity
Date: Fri, 8 May 2026 05:52:32 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260508125232.GA6459@ranerica-svr.sc.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0171d56e-c8b3-4a17-85a5-93ac407aae5f@arm.com>

On Wed, May 06, 2026 at 02:10:22PM +0100, Christian Loehle wrote:
> On 4/29/26 22:19, Ricardo Neri wrote:
> > sched_balance_find_src_rq() avoids selecting a runqueue with a single
> > running task as busiest if doing so results in migrating the task to a
> > CPU with less than ~5% of extra capacity. It also unintentionally
> > prevents migrations between CPUs of identical capacity.
> > 
> > When CONFIG_SCHED_CLUSTER is enabled, load should be balanced across
> > clusters of CPUs with the same capacity. Allowing migration between CPUs
> > of identical capacity is necessary to meet this goal.
> > 
> > We are interested in the architectural capacity of the involved CPUs,
> > excluding any reductions due to side activity or thermal pressure. Use
> > arch_scale_cpu_capacity().
> > 
> > While here, invert the check for runtime capacity for clarity.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com>
> > ---
> > Changes since v1:
> >  * Used arch_scale_cpu_capacity() instead of capacity_of() to ignore
> >    runtime variability.
> >  * Inverted the check for runtime capacity. (Christian)
> >  * Reworded patch description for clarity.
> > ---
> >  kernel/sched/fair.c | 7 ++++++-
> >  1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > index 166a5b109e0e..4105717e64fe 100644
> > --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > @@ -11816,9 +11816,14 @@ static struct rq *sched_balance_find_src_rq(struct lb_env *env,
> >  		 * eventually lead to active_balancing high->low capacity.
> >  		 * Higher per-CPU capacity is considered better than balancing
> >  		 * average load.
> > +		 *
> > +		 * Cluster scheduling requires balancing load across clusters
> > +		 * of identical capacity. Use architectural capacity to ignore
> > +		 * runtime variability.
> >  		 */
> >  		if (env->sd->flags & SD_ASYM_CPUCAPACITY &&
> > -		    !capacity_greater(capacity_of(env->dst_cpu), capacity) &&
> > +		    arch_scale_cpu_capacity(env->dst_cpu) != arch_scale_cpu_capacity(i) &&
> > +		    capacity_greater(capacity, capacity_of(env->dst_cpu)) &&
> >  		    nr_running == 1)
> >  			continue;
> >  
> > 
> 
> I wonder if we shouldn't use capacity_greater() margin for both, i.e.
> capacity_greater(arch_scale_cpu_capacity(i), arch_scale_cpu_capacity(env->dst_cpu)) &&
> 
> For example the orion o6 has a cluster with 1024 and one with 984, If we allow balancing
> 984->984 I think it's only consistent to also allow 984->1024.

But that would be a change in the current policy, no? Today we allow a 984->
1024 balance based on runtime capacity. The scope of this patchset is to make
SCHED_CLUSTER work as expected for clusters of same capacity.

Perhaps your proposal of using architectural capacity can be evaluated in a
separate patchset?

By the way, in v3 I will have to undo the inversion of the runtime capacity.
The original check allowed balance if dst_cpu had at least 5% more capacity
than src_cpu. The inverted check allows balance to CPUs of less capacity if
the difference is less than 5%.

      reply	other threads:[~2026-05-08 12:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20260429-rneri-fix-cas-clusters-v2-0-cd787de35cc6@linux.intel.com>
     [not found] ` <20260429-rneri-fix-cas-clusters-v2-1-cd787de35cc6@linux.intel.com>
2026-05-06 10:38   ` [PATCH v2 1/4] sched/fair: Check CPU capacity before comparing group types during load balance Christian Loehle
2026-05-06 23:45     ` Ricardo Neri
     [not found] ` <20260429-rneri-fix-cas-clusters-v2-2-cd787de35cc6@linux.intel.com>
2026-05-06 11:39   ` [PATCH v2 2/4] sched/fair: Skip misfit load accounting when the destination CPU cannot help Christian Loehle
2026-05-06 23:47     ` Ricardo Neri
     [not found] ` <20260429-rneri-fix-cas-clusters-v2-3-cd787de35cc6@linux.intel.com>
2026-05-06 13:10   ` [PATCH v2 3/4] sched/fair: Allow load balancing between CPUs of identical capacity Christian Loehle
2026-05-08 12:52     ` Ricardo Neri [this message]

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