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* [PATCH 0/2] sched/psi: fix trigger window arithmetic
@ 2026-07-24  4:11 Tao Cui
  2026-07-24  4:11 ` [PATCH 1/2] sched/psi: fix trigger window growth interpolation for large windows Tao Cui
                   ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Tao Cui @ 2026-07-24  4:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Johannes Weiner, Suren Baghdasaryan
  Cc: Peter Zijlstra, Ingo Molnar, linux-kernel, Tao Cui, cui.tao

From: Tao Cui <cuitao@kylinos.cn>

Two narrow numeric bugs in the PSI trigger-window arithmetic, both from
the original psi monitor (0e94682b73bf) and both only visible for trigger
windows larger than ~4.29s (UINT32_MAX ns).

1/2 window_update() estimates the stall growth inside a partially-elapsed
   window as `prev_growth * remaining / size`.  `remaining` is a u32 but
   win->size is a u64 and may be up to 10s (1e10 ns), so for large windows
   it truncates and the interpolation collapses; `prev_growth * remaining`
   can also overflow u64.  Use a u64 `remaining` and mul_u64_u64_div_u64().

2/2 psi_trigger_create() scales window/threshold us->ns with
   `* NSEC_PER_USEC`.  NSEC_PER_USEC is `long`, so on 32-bit the multiply
   wraps for multi-second windows (a 10s window is stored as ~1.41s).
   Cast to u64 first.

Neither path is the scheduler hot path (update_triggers() runs at
trigger-evaluation rate), and small-window triggers are numerically
unchanged.

Demo of 1/2 -- 10s window, previous window was 100% stall, polled each
1s, trigger "some 5s 10s".  Estimated growth (seconds) inside the window:

    elapsed  current(u32)  fixed(u64)
    1        1             10
    2        2             10
    3        3             10
    4        5             10

With the current code the trigger waits for the actual stall to reach the
5s threshold (~4s in) instead of firing once the run-rate predicts it
(~1s in): a ~3s delay on the first window of a stall.

Tao Cui (2):
  sched/psi: fix trigger window growth interpolation for large windows
  sched/psi: convert trigger window/threshold to ns in u64

 kernel/sched/psi.c | 9 +++++----
 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)

-- 
2.43.0


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* [PATCH 1/2] sched/psi: fix trigger window growth interpolation for large windows
  2026-07-24  4:11 [PATCH 0/2] sched/psi: fix trigger window arithmetic Tao Cui
@ 2026-07-24  4:11 ` Tao Cui
  2026-07-24  4:11 ` [PATCH 2/2] sched/psi: convert trigger window/threshold to ns in u64 Tao Cui
  2026-07-27  6:10 ` [PATCH 0/2] sched/psi: fix trigger window arithmetic Suren Baghdasaryan
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Tao Cui @ 2026-07-24  4:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Johannes Weiner, Suren Baghdasaryan
  Cc: Peter Zijlstra, Ingo Molnar, linux-kernel, Tao Cui, cui.tao

From: Tao Cui <cuitao@kylinos.cn>

window_update() estimates the stall growth inside a partially elapsed
trigger window as

    growth += win->prev_growth * remaining / win->size

with `remaining = win->size - elapsed`.  The local `remaining` is a u32,
but win->size is a u64 and may be as large as WINDOW_MAX_US (10s = 10^10
ns), which exceeds UINT32_MAX (~4.29s).  For trigger windows larger than
~4.29s the assignment truncates `remaining`, the linear interpolation
collapses, and growth is heavily underestimated.

For a 10s window polled once per second with prev_growth equal to a full
window of stall, the estimate one second in is ~1.4s instead of 10s.  A
trigger configured as "some 5s 10s" then waits until the actual stall
reaches the threshold (~4s in) instead of firing as soon as the run-rate
predicts it (~1s in): a multi-second delay on the first window of a
stall.

Use a u64 `remaining` and mul_u64_u64_div_u64() for the product, which
also avoids the u64 overflow of `prev_growth * remaining` under heavy
pressure.  This runs in update_triggers() at trigger-evaluation rate (at
most a few times per second), not the scheduler hot path, so the helper's
cost is immaterial.

Fixes: 0e94682b73bf ("psi: introduce psi monitor")
Signed-off-by: Tao Cui <cuitao@kylinos.cn>
---
 kernel/sched/psi.c | 5 +++--
 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/kernel/sched/psi.c b/kernel/sched/psi.c
index 4e152410653d..6514b44222cf 100644
--- a/kernel/sched/psi.c
+++ b/kernel/sched/psi.c
@@ -451,10 +451,11 @@ static u64 window_update(struct psi_window *win, u64 now, u64 value)
 	if (elapsed > win->size)
 		window_reset(win, now, value, growth);
 	else {
-		u32 remaining;
+		u64 remaining;
 
 		remaining = win->size - elapsed;
-		growth += div64_u64(win->prev_growth * remaining, win->size);
+		growth += mul_u64_u64_div_u64(win->prev_growth, remaining,
+					      win->size);
 	}
 
 	return growth;
-- 
2.43.0


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* [PATCH 2/2] sched/psi: convert trigger window/threshold to ns in u64
  2026-07-24  4:11 [PATCH 0/2] sched/psi: fix trigger window arithmetic Tao Cui
  2026-07-24  4:11 ` [PATCH 1/2] sched/psi: fix trigger window growth interpolation for large windows Tao Cui
@ 2026-07-24  4:11 ` Tao Cui
  2026-07-27  6:10 ` [PATCH 0/2] sched/psi: fix trigger window arithmetic Suren Baghdasaryan
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Tao Cui @ 2026-07-24  4:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Johannes Weiner, Suren Baghdasaryan
  Cc: Peter Zijlstra, Ingo Molnar, linux-kernel, Tao Cui, cui.tao

From: Tao Cui <cuitao@kylinos.cn>

psi_trigger_create() scales the trigger threshold and window from
microseconds to nanoseconds as

    t->threshold = threshold_us * NSEC_PER_USEC;
    t->win.size  = window_us   * NSEC_PER_USEC;

NSEC_PER_USEC is 1000L, so on 32-bit the multiply is done in 32 bits and
wraps for windows larger than ~4.29s (WINDOW_MAX_US is 10s): a 10s window
is stored as ~1.41s and the trigger fires much too eagerly.  Cast to u64
before multiplying.

Fixes: 0e94682b73bf ("psi: introduce psi monitor")
Signed-off-by: Tao Cui <cuitao@kylinos.cn>
---
 kernel/sched/psi.c | 4 ++--
 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/kernel/sched/psi.c b/kernel/sched/psi.c
index 6514b44222cf..7fbe9b94fafa 100644
--- a/kernel/sched/psi.c
+++ b/kernel/sched/psi.c
@@ -1390,8 +1390,8 @@ struct psi_trigger *psi_trigger_create(struct psi_group *group, char *buf,
 
 	t->group = group;
 	t->state = state;
-	t->threshold = threshold_us * NSEC_PER_USEC;
-	t->win.size = window_us * NSEC_PER_USEC;
+	t->threshold = (u64)threshold_us * NSEC_PER_USEC;
+	t->win.size = (u64)window_us * NSEC_PER_USEC;
 	window_reset(&t->win, sched_clock(),
 			group->total[PSI_POLL][t->state], 0);
 
-- 
2.43.0


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* Re: [PATCH 0/2] sched/psi: fix trigger window arithmetic
  2026-07-24  4:11 [PATCH 0/2] sched/psi: fix trigger window arithmetic Tao Cui
  2026-07-24  4:11 ` [PATCH 1/2] sched/psi: fix trigger window growth interpolation for large windows Tao Cui
  2026-07-24  4:11 ` [PATCH 2/2] sched/psi: convert trigger window/threshold to ns in u64 Tao Cui
@ 2026-07-27  6:10 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
  2026-07-28  7:55   ` Tao Cui
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Suren Baghdasaryan @ 2026-07-27  6:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tao Cui; +Cc: Johannes Weiner, Peter Zijlstra, Ingo Molnar, linux-kernel,
	Tao Cui

On Thu, Jul 23, 2026 at 9:12 PM Tao Cui <cui.tao@linux.dev> wrote:
>
> From: Tao Cui <cuitao@kylinos.cn>
>
> Two narrow numeric bugs in the PSI trigger-window arithmetic, both from
> the original psi monitor (0e94682b73bf) and both only visible for trigger
> windows larger than ~4.29s (UINT32_MAX ns).
>
> 1/2 window_update() estimates the stall growth inside a partially-elapsed
>    window as `prev_growth * remaining / size`.  `remaining` is a u32 but
>    win->size is a u64 and may be up to 10s (1e10 ns), so for large windows
>    it truncates and the interpolation collapses; `prev_growth * remaining`
>    can also overflow u64.  Use a u64 `remaining` and mul_u64_u64_div_u64().
>
> 2/2 psi_trigger_create() scales window/threshold us->ns with
>    `* NSEC_PER_USEC`.  NSEC_PER_USEC is `long`, so on 32-bit the multiply
>    wraps for multi-second windows (a 10s window is stored as ~1.41s).
>    Cast to u64 first.
>
> Neither path is the scheduler hot path (update_triggers() runs at
> trigger-evaluation rate), and small-window triggers are numerically
> unchanged.
>
> Demo of 1/2 -- 10s window, previous window was 100% stall, polled each
> 1s, trigger "some 5s 10s".  Estimated growth (seconds) inside the window:
>
>     elapsed  current(u32)  fixed(u64)
>     1        1             10
>     2        2             10
>     3        3             10
>     4        5             10
>
> With the current code the trigger waits for the actual stall to reach the
> 5s threshold (~4s in) instead of firing once the run-rate predicts it
> (~1s in): a ~3s delay on the first window of a stall.

This looks like a duplicate of the series posted by your collegue at
https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260717102824.985950-1-guopeng.zhang@linux.dev/

>
> Tao Cui (2):
>   sched/psi: fix trigger window growth interpolation for large windows
>   sched/psi: convert trigger window/threshold to ns in u64
>
>  kernel/sched/psi.c | 9 +++++----
>  1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
>
> --
> 2.43.0
>

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* Re: [PATCH 0/2] sched/psi: fix trigger window arithmetic
  2026-07-27  6:10 ` [PATCH 0/2] sched/psi: fix trigger window arithmetic Suren Baghdasaryan
@ 2026-07-28  7:55   ` Tao Cui
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Tao Cui @ 2026-07-28  7:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Suren Baghdasaryan
  Cc: cui.tao, Johannes Weiner, Peter Zijlstra, Ingo Molnar,
	linux-kernel, Tao Cui



在 2026/7/27 14:10, Suren Baghdasaryan 写道:
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2026 at 9:12 PM Tao Cui <cui.tao@linux.dev> wrote:
>>
>> From: Tao Cui <cuitao@kylinos.cn>
>>
>> Two narrow numeric bugs in the PSI trigger-window arithmetic, both from
>> the original psi monitor (0e94682b73bf) and both only visible for trigger
>> windows larger than ~4.29s (UINT32_MAX ns).
>>
>> 1/2 window_update() estimates the stall growth inside a partially-elapsed
>>    window as `prev_growth * remaining / size`.  `remaining` is a u32 but
>>    win->size is a u64 and may be up to 10s (1e10 ns), so for large windows
>>    it truncates and the interpolation collapses; `prev_growth * remaining`
>>    can also overflow u64.  Use a u64 `remaining` and mul_u64_u64_div_u64().
>>
>> 2/2 psi_trigger_create() scales window/threshold us->ns with
>>    `* NSEC_PER_USEC`.  NSEC_PER_USEC is `long`, so on 32-bit the multiply
>>    wraps for multi-second windows (a 10s window is stored as ~1.41s).
>>    Cast to u64 first.
>>
>> Neither path is the scheduler hot path (update_triggers() runs at
>> trigger-evaluation rate), and small-window triggers are numerically
>> unchanged.
>>
>> Demo of 1/2 -- 10s window, previous window was 100% stall, polled each
>> 1s, trigger "some 5s 10s".  Estimated growth (seconds) inside the window:
>>
>>     elapsed  current(u32)  fixed(u64)
>>     1        1             10
>>     2        2             10
>>     3        3             10
>>     4        5             10
>>
>> With the current code the trigger waits for the actual stall to reach the
>> 5s threshold (~4s in) instead of firing once the run-rate predicts it
>> (~1s in): a ~3s delay on the first window of a stall.
> 
> This looks like a duplicate of the series posted by your collegue at
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260717102824.985950-1-guopeng.zhang@linux.dev/
> 
Hi Suren,

You're right -- this duplicates Guopeng's series. He and I found this
issue together a while back, and his submission already covers it, so
I'm withdrawing mine. Sorry for the extra noise.

Thanks,
Tao
>>
>> Tao Cui (2):
>>   sched/psi: fix trigger window growth interpolation for large windows
>>   sched/psi: convert trigger window/threshold to ns in u64
>>
>>  kernel/sched/psi.c | 9 +++++----
>>  1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
>>
>> --
>> 2.43.0
>>


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