From: Daniel Scally <djrscally@gmail.com>
To: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: Andy Shevchenko <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Platform Driver <platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org>,
Liam Girdwood <lgirdwood@gmail.com>,
Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>,
Mark Gross <mgross@linux.intel.com>,
Maximilian Luz <luzmaximilian@gmail.com>,
Kieran Bingham <kieran.bingham@ideasonboard.com>,
sailues@pendragon.ideasonboard.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 1/3] regulator: core: Add regulator_lookup_list
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 15:12:25 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4ac0acb9-83ea-7fcd-cde3-669ba3b699c6@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YSZMxxJ76vF316Pi@pendragon.ideasonboard.com>
Hi Laurent
On 25/08/2021 14:59, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> Hello,
>
> CC'ing Sakari.
>
> On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 02:11:39PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 03:26:37PM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
>>> On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 2:30 PM Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>> No, what was proposed for regulator was to duplicate all the the DT
>>>> binding code in the regulator framework so it parses fwnodes then have
>>>> an API for encoding fwnodes from C data structures at runtime. The bit
>>>> where the data gets joined up with the devices isn't the problem, it's
>>>> the duplication and fragility introduced by encoding everything into
>>>> an intermediate representation that has no purpose and passing that
>>>> around which is the problem.
>>> The whole exercise with swnode is to minimize the driver intrusion and
>>> evolving a unified way for (some) of the device properties. V4L2 won't
>> The practical implementation for regulators was to duplicate a
>> substantial amount of code in the core in order to give us a less type
>> safe and more indirect way of passing data from onen C file in the
>> kernel to another. This proposal is a lot better in that it uses the
>> existing init_data and avoids the huge amounts of duplication, it's just
>> not clear from the changelog why it's doing this in a regulator specific
>> manner.
>>
>> *Please* stop trying to force swnodes in everywhere, take on board the
>> feedback about why the swnode implementation is completely inappropriate
>> for regulators. I don't understand why you continue to push this so
>> hard. swnodes and fwnodes are a solution to a specific problem, they're
>> not the answer to every problem out there and having to rehash this
>> continually is getting in the way of actually discussing practical
>> workarounds for these poorly implemented ACPI platforms.
>>
>>> like what you are suggesting exactly because they don't like the idea
>>> of spreading the board code over the drivers. In some cases it might
>>> even be not so straightforward and easy.
>>> Laurent, do I understand correctly the v4l2 expectations?
>> There will be some cases where swnodes make sense, for example where the
>> data is going to be read through the fwnode API since the binding is
>> firmware neutral which I think is the v4l case. On the other hand
>> having a direct C representation is a very common way of implementing
>> DMI quirk tables, and we have things like the regulator API where
>> there's off the shelf platform data support and we actively don't want
>> to support fwnode.
> From a camera sensor point of view, we want to avoid code duplication.
> Having to look for regulators using OF lookups *and* platform data in
> every single sensor driver is not a good solution. This means that, from
> a camera sensor driver point of view, we want to call regulator_get()
> (or the devm_ version) with a name, without caring about who establishes
> the mapping and how the lookup is performed. I don't care much
> personally if this would be implemented through swnode or a different
> mechanism, as long as the implementation can be centralized.
I think rather than sensor drivers, the idea would be just to have the
tps68470-regulator driver check platform data for the init_data instead,
like the tps65023-regulator driver [1] does. I'm sure that'll work, but
it's not particularly centralized from the regulator driver's point of
view.
[1]
https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/drivers/regulator/tps65023-regulator.c#L268
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-08-25 14:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-08-24 23:06 [RFC PATCH v2 0/3] Add regulator_lookup_list and API Daniel Scally
2021-08-24 23:06 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/3] regulator: core: Add regulator_lookup_list Daniel Scally
2021-08-25 10:33 ` Mark Brown
2021-08-25 11:10 ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-08-25 11:30 ` Mark Brown
2021-08-25 12:26 ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-08-25 13:11 ` Mark Brown
2021-08-25 13:59 ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-08-25 14:03 ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-08-25 14:33 ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-08-25 14:12 ` Daniel Scally [this message]
2021-08-25 14:22 ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-08-25 14:52 ` Mark Brown
2021-08-25 22:09 ` Daniel Scally
2021-08-26 12:40 ` Mark Brown
2021-08-25 14:41 ` Mark Brown
2021-08-25 14:48 ` Hans de Goede
2021-08-25 15:27 ` Mark Brown
2021-08-25 15:42 ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-08-25 16:13 ` Mark Brown
2021-08-25 20:25 ` Hans de Goede
2021-08-25 20:40 ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-08-25 21:24 ` Daniel Scally
2021-08-25 21:17 ` Daniel Scally
2021-08-24 23:06 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/3] Documentation: power: Document regulator_lookup_list Daniel Scally
2021-08-24 23:06 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/3] platform/surface: Add Surface Go 2 board file Daniel Scally
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