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From: "Liang, Kan" <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>
To: Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>
Cc: "Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo" <acme@kernel.org>,
	"Namhyung Kim" <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	"Mark Rutland" <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	"Alexander Shishkin" <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	"Jiri Olsa" <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	"Adrian Hunter" <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
	"Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>,
	"Manivannan Sadhasivam" <manivannan.sadhasivam@linaro.org>,
	"Weilin Wang" <weilin.wang@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org,
	"Perry Taylor" <perry.taylor@intel.com>,
	"Samantha Alt" <samantha.alt@intel.com>,
	"Caleb Biggers" <caleb.biggers@intel.com>,
	"Edward Baker" <edward.baker@intel.com>,
	"Michael Petlan" <mpetlan@redhat.com>,
	"Thomas Falcon" <thomas.falcon@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 11/24] perf vendor events: Update/add Graniterapids events/metrics
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2025 09:32:04 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <58e08371-8d43-4f84-baaf-64b0af95c7cb@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP-5=fWpbXSwZq5biRZ1fjcSJY2DO4g=cv-0K8jZ1Gzv3bOfhA@mail.gmail.com>



On 2025-02-05 4:33 p.m., Ian Rogers wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 1:10 PM Liang, Kan <kan.liang@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 2025-02-05 3:23 p.m., Ian Rogers wrote:
>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 11:11 AM Liang, Kan <kan.liang@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 2025-02-05 12:31 p.m., Ian Rogers wrote:
>>>>> +    {
>>>>> +        "BriefDescription": "This category represents fraction of slots utilized by useful work i.e. issued uops that eventually get retired",
>>>>> +        "MetricExpr": "topdown\\-retiring / (topdown\\-fe\\-bound + topdown\\-bad\\-spec + topdown\\-retiring + topdown\\-be\\-bound) + 0 * slots",
>>>>> +        "MetricGroup": "BvUW;TmaL1;TopdownL1;tma_L1_group",
>>>>> +        "MetricName": "tma_retiring",
>>>>> +        "MetricThreshold": "tma_retiring > 0.7 | tma_heavy_operations > 0.1",
>>>>> +        "MetricgroupNoGroup": "TopdownL1",
>>>>> +        "PublicDescription": "This category represents fraction of slots utilized by useful work i.e. issued uops that eventually get retired. Ideally; all pipeline slots would be attributed to the Retiring category.  Retiring of 100% would indicate the maximum Pipeline_Width throughput was achieved.  Maximizing Retiring typically increases the Instructions-per-cycle (see IPC metric). Note that a high Retiring value does not necessary mean there is no room for more performance.  For example; Heavy-operations or Microcode Assists are categorized under Retiring. They often indicate suboptimal performance and can often be optimized or avoided. Sample with: UOPS_RETIRED.SLOTS",
>>>>> +        "ScaleUnit": "100%"
>>>>> +    },
>>>>
>>>> The "Default" tag is missed for GNR as well.
>>>> It seems the new CPUIDs are not added in the script?
>>>
>>> Spotted it, we need to manually say which architectures with TopdownL1
>>> should be in Default because it was insisted upon that pre-Icelake
>>> CPUs with TopdownL1 not have TopdownL1 in Default. As you know, my
>>> preference would be to always put TopdownL1 metrics into Default.
>>>
>>
>> For the future platforms, there should be always at least TopdownL1
>> support. Intel even adds extra fixed counters for the TopdownL1 events.
>>
>> Maybe the script should be changed to only mark the old pre-Icelake as
>> no TopdownL1 Default. For the other platforms, always add TopdownL1 as
>> Default. It would avoid manually adding it for every new platforms.
> 
> That's fair. What about TopdownL2 that is currently only in the
> Default set for SPR?
> 

Yes, the TopdownL2 is a bit tricky, which requires much more events.
Could you please set it just for SPR/EMR/GNR for now?

I will ask around internally and make a long-term solution for the
TopdownL2.

Thanks,
Kan


  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-06 14:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-05 17:31 [PATCH v5 00/24] Intel vendor events and TMA 5.01 metrics Ian Rogers
2025-02-05 17:31 ` [PATCH v5 01/24] perf vendor events: Update Alderlake events/metrics Ian Rogers
2025-02-05 17:31 ` [PATCH v5 02/24] perf vendor events: Update AlderlakeN events/metrics Ian Rogers
2025-02-05 17:31 ` [PATCH v5 03/24] perf vendor events: Add Arrowlake events/metrics Ian Rogers
2025-02-05 19:08   ` Liang, Kan
2025-02-05 17:31 ` [PATCH v5 04/24] perf vendor events: Update Broadwell events/metrics Ian Rogers
2025-02-05 17:31 ` [PATCH v5 05/24] perf vendor events: Update BroadwellDE events/metrics Ian Rogers
2025-02-05 17:31 ` [PATCH v5 06/24] perf vendor events: Update BroadwellX events/metrics Ian Rogers
2025-02-05 17:31 ` [PATCH v5 07/24] perf vendor events: Update CascadelakeX events/metrics Ian Rogers
2025-02-05 17:31 ` [PATCH v5 08/24] perf vendor events: Add Clearwaterforest events Ian Rogers
2025-02-05 17:31 ` [PATCH v5 09/24] perf vendor events: Update EmeraldRapids events/metrics Ian Rogers
2025-02-05 17:31 ` [PATCH v5 10/24] perf vendor events: Update GrandRidge events/metrics Ian Rogers
2025-02-05 17:31 ` [PATCH v5 11/24] perf vendor events: Update/add Graniterapids events/metrics Ian Rogers
2025-02-05 19:11   ` Liang, Kan
2025-02-05 20:23     ` Ian Rogers
2025-02-05 21:10       ` Liang, Kan
2025-02-05 21:33         ` Ian Rogers
2025-02-06 14:32           ` Liang, Kan [this message]
2025-02-06 16:40             ` Ian Rogers
2025-02-06 17:11               ` Liang, Kan
     [not found]                 ` <CAP-5=fWQj01O3WmGLoAf6O_uEeMHpOUqVWvHi3nW_kGj4VtZWg@mail.gmail.com>
2025-02-06 18:53                   ` Liang, Kan
2025-02-06 18:59                     ` Liang, Kan
2025-02-06 19:05                       ` Ian Rogers
2025-02-06 19:53                         ` Liang, Kan
2025-02-07 17:39                           ` Ian Rogers
2025-02-05 17:31 ` [PATCH v5 12/24] perf vendor events: Update Haswell events/metrics Ian Rogers
2025-02-05 17:31 ` [PATCH v5 13/24] perf vendor events: Update HaswellX events/metrics Ian Rogers
2025-02-05 17:31 ` [PATCH v5 14/24] perf vendor events: Update Icelake events/metrics Ian Rogers
2025-02-05 17:31 ` [PATCH v5 15/24] perf vendor events: Update IcelakeX events/metrics Ian Rogers
2025-02-05 17:31 ` [PATCH v5 16/24] perf vendor events: Update/add Lunarlake events/metrics Ian Rogers
2025-02-05 17:31 ` [PATCH v5 17/24] perf vendor events: Update Meteorlake events/metrics Ian Rogers
2025-02-05 17:31 ` [PATCH v5 18/24] perf vendor events: Update Rocketlake events/metrics Ian Rogers
2025-02-05 17:31 ` [PATCH v5 19/24] perf vendor events: Update Sapphirerapids events/metrics Ian Rogers
2025-02-05 17:31 ` [PATCH v5 20/24] perf vendor events: Update Sierraforest events/metrics Ian Rogers
2025-02-05 17:31 ` [PATCH v5 21/24] perf vendor events: Update Skylake metrics Ian Rogers
2025-02-05 17:31 ` [PATCH v5 22/24] perf vendor events: Update SkylakeX events/metrics Ian Rogers
2025-02-05 17:31 ` [PATCH v5 23/24] perf vendor events: Update Tigerlake events/metrics Ian Rogers
2025-02-05 17:31 ` [PATCH v5 24/24] perf test stat_all_metrics: Ensure missing events fail test Ian Rogers
2025-02-05 19:44 ` [PATCH v5 00/24] Intel vendor events and TMA 5.01 metrics Falcon, Thomas
2025-02-05 20:47   ` Ian Rogers
2025-02-06 20:33     ` Falcon, Thomas

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