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From: "Chen, Yu C" <yu.c.chen@intel.com>
To: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>
Cc: Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Peter Newman <peternewman@google.com>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>,
	Ben Horgan <ben.horgan@arm.com>,
	James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
	Babu Moger <babu.moger@amd.com>,
	Drew Fustini <fustini@kernel.org>,
	Fenghua Yu <fenghuay@nvidia.com>,
	"chen.yu@linux.dev" <chen.yu@linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [RFC v2] arm,x86,fs/resctrl: Generic schema description Proof of Concept
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2026 11:49:12 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5ecbbe3d-aa8c-409b-8963-0ee50b456814@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ef14b978-1b58-446f-b07a-691422220cb8@intel.com>

Hi Reinette,

On 8/11/2026 2:09 AM, Reinette Chatre wrote:
> Hi Chenyu,
>> I think "legacy" now refers to "MSR" in the context of region-aware RDT,
>> due to lack of mapping between MSR-based and MMIO-based values.
> 
>  From user space view "legacy" is the existing percentage based MB control
> that user space has been using until now. The only way to support this "legacy"
> user interface with region-aware hardware is to use the MSR interface, no?

Yes, agreed.

>> Then for the current region-aware MBA, should we add region-aware controllers
>> as the same level as legacy controller, instead of adding them in legacy
>> controllers' emulated_by list, since the legacy controller is not
>> emulated by region-aware controllers? And we might need to introduce enable/disable
>> flag per controller, which could be switched on/off when switching between
>> legacy and native.
> Please consider what will be required to support per-controller dynamic ("enable" vs "disable")
> state: resctrl fs needs to expose interfaces that accept control changes from user space after
> initialization that needs to be supported by architecture. In the current design resctrl fs expects
> controllers to be set and configured at the time it starts so such change would require new locking
> between resctrl fs and architecture. This complexity does not seem necessary to me since switching
> between legacy and native accomplishes the same, no?
> 

OK, agreed.

> I find "region-aware controllers at the same level as legacy controller" together with
> "per controller enable/disable" conflicting since it creates impression that user space can
> enable/disable the controllers independently while there is a required dependency among the
> different controllers based on whether hardware has region-aware MBA enabled or not. Even
> here there would be a requirement to communicate to userspace which controllers could be
> enabled/disabled together ... which is the same as the emulated list, no?

I see. So we actually need a single option (control_mode) to switch 
between modes (legacy vs.
native, mutually exclusive), rather than giving each controller its own 
independent enable/disable
toggle. The emulated list is one way to implement control_mode, ensuring 
"legacy" and "native"
are mutually exclusive.

> 
> Also consider the future:
> (a) Would it be possible to map legacy control value to region aware control value in the future?
>      I believe the answer is "yes". If resctrl starts by displaying the region-aware controllers
>      as emulating the legacy controller in info/ then the transition to support this will
>      be smooth.
> 
> (b) Would MSR interface always be available?
>      I do not think resctrl should always assume this to be the case. Here I also find that starting
>      with exposing region aware controllers as emulating the legacy controller in info/ to support
>      a smooth transition.
> 
> What problem(s) do you envision?
> 

Based on this design, I don’t see any issues. So putting native 
controllers under the legacy
controller could be a viable approach that can be extended in the future.

thanks,
Chenyu

  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-11  3:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-04  5:26 [RFC v2] arm,x86,fs/resctrl: Generic schema description Proof of Concept Reinette Chatre
2026-08-05 16:59 ` Ben Horgan
2026-08-05 23:57   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-08-06 17:04     ` Luck, Tony
2026-08-06 17:11       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-08-07 14:14         ` Moger, Babu
2026-08-07 15:35           ` Reinette Chatre
2026-08-07 18:33             ` Moger, Babu
2026-08-07 22:53               ` Reinette Chatre
2026-08-10 18:52                 ` Babu Moger
2026-08-11  4:06                   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-08-07 15:35           ` Chen, Yu C
2026-08-07 17:57             ` Moger, Babu
2026-08-10  2:05 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-08-10 15:53   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-08-10 17:23     ` Chen, Yu C
2026-08-10 18:09       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-08-11  3:49         ` Chen, Yu C [this message]
2026-08-10  2:55 ` Fenghua Yu
2026-08-10  3:02   ` Chen, Yu C
2026-08-10  3:25     ` Fenghua Yu
2026-08-10  5:24       ` Chen, Yu C
2026-08-10 15:53   ` Reinette Chatre

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