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From: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Qais Yousef <qyousef@layalina.io>,
	Kajetan Puchalski <kajetan.puchalski@arm.com>,
	Jian-Min Liu <jian-min.liu@mediatek.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
	Vincent Donnefort <vdonnefort@google.com>,
	Quentin Perret <qperret@google.com>,
	Patrick Bellasi <patrick.bellasi@matbug.net>,
	Abhijeet Dharmapurikar <adharmap@quicinc.com>,
	Qais Yousef <qais.yousef@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Jonathan JMChen <jonathan.jmchen@mediatek.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/1] sched/pelt: Change PELT halflife at runtime
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2023 21:28:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <94eeb587-e9c9-1d92-7fd3-edde46fd4dba@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKfTPtCdoAtQUJgSGgCZtCWhtv0_WgDrBpGSRTwHG=SV_Jf4ew@mail.gmail.com>

On 21/02/2023 10:29, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Feb 2023 at 14:54, Vincent Guittot
> <vincent.guittot@linaro.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 at 14:54, Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 09/02/2023 17:16, Vincent Guittot wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 7 Feb 2023 at 11:29, Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 09/11/2022 16:49, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 08, 2022 at 07:48:43PM +0000, Qais Yousef wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/07/22 14:41, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 03:41:47PM +0100, Kajetan Puchalski wrote:

[...]

>>> I ran the same test (boosting only for DVFS requests) with:
                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ *
>>>
>>> -->8--
>>>
>>> diff --git a/kernel/sched/sched.h b/kernel/sched/sched.h
>>> index dbc56e8b85f9..7a4bf38f2920 100644
>>> --- a/kernel/sched/sched.h
>>> +++ b/kernel/sched/sched.h
>>> @@ -2946,6 +2946,8 @@ static inline unsigned long cpu_util_cfs(int cpu)
>>>                              READ_ONCE(cfs_rq->avg.util_est.enqueued));
>>>         }
>>>
>>> +       util = max(util, READ_ONCE(cfs_rq->avg.runnable_avg));
>>> +
> 
> Another reason why it gives better results could be that
> cpu_util_cfs() is not only used for DVFS selection but also to track
> the cpu utilization in load balance and EAS so the cpu will be faster
> seen as overloaded and tasks will be spread around when there are
> contentions.
> 
> Could you try to take cfs_rq->avg.runnable_avg into account only when
> selecting frequency ?

I actually did exactly this. (* but not shown in the code snippet).
I just used the boosting for CPU frequency selection (from
sugov_get_util()). I added the the `_freq` suffix in the kernel name to
indicate this.

> That being said I can see some place in load balance where
> cfs_rq->avg.runnable_avg could give some benefits like in
> find_busiest_queue() where it could be better to take into account the
> contention when selecting the busiest queue

Could be. Looks like so far we only use it in group_has_capacity(),
group_is_overloaded() and for NUMA.

[...]

  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-22 20:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-29  5:54 [RFC PATCH 0/1] sched/pelt: Change PELT halflife at runtime Dietmar Eggemann
2022-08-29  5:54 ` [RFC PATCH 1/1] sched/pelt: Introduce PELT multiplier Dietmar Eggemann
2022-08-29  8:08   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-08-29 10:02     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-08-29 10:13       ` Vincent Guittot
2022-08-29 14:23         ` Quentin Perret
2022-08-29 14:34           ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-08-29 15:31             ` Quentin Perret
2022-08-29 15:48             ` Quentin Perret
2022-09-02  7:53         ` Dietmar Eggemann
2022-09-02  8:45           ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-09-06  5:49           ` Vincent Guittot
2022-09-08  6:50             ` Dietmar Eggemann
2022-09-02  7:53       ` Dietmar Eggemann
2022-09-02  8:45         ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-09-20 14:07 ` [RFC PATCH 0/1] sched/pelt: Change PELT halflife at runtime Jian-Min Liu
2022-09-28 17:09   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2022-09-29  9:47   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-09-29 11:07     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2022-09-29 11:10     ` Kajetan Puchalski
2022-09-29 11:21       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-09-29 14:41         ` Kajetan Puchalski
2022-10-03 22:57           ` Wei Wang
2022-10-04  9:33             ` Dietmar Eggemann
2022-10-05 16:57               ` Wei Wang
2022-11-07 13:41           ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-08 19:48             ` Qais Yousef
2022-11-09 15:49               ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-10 13:25                 ` Qais Yousef
2023-02-07 10:29                 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-02-09 16:16                   ` Vincent Guittot
2023-02-17 13:54                     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-02-20 13:54                       ` Vincent Guittot
2023-02-21  9:29                         ` Vincent Guittot
2023-02-22 20:28                           ` Dietmar Eggemann [this message]
2023-03-01 10:24                             ` Vincent Guittot
2023-02-22 20:13                         ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-03-02 19:36                           ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-02-20 10:13                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-20 13:39                       ` Vincent Guittot
2023-02-23 15:37                     ` Qais Yousef
2023-03-01 10:39                       ` Vincent Guittot
2023-03-01 17:24                         ` Qais Yousef
2023-03-02  8:00                           ` Vincent Guittot
2023-03-02 19:39                             ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-03-06 19:11                             ` Qais Yousef
2023-03-07 13:22                               ` Vincent Guittot
2023-03-11 16:55                                 ` Qais Yousef
2023-03-23 16:29                           ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-04-03 14:45                             ` Qais Yousef
2023-04-06 15:58                               ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-04-11 17:51                                 ` Qais Yousef
2022-11-09 15:18             ` Lukasz Luba
2022-11-10 11:16             ` Dietmar Eggemann
2022-11-10 13:05               ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-10 14:59                 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2022-11-10 17:51                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-30 18:14                     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2022-12-01 13:37                       ` Kajetan Puchalski
2022-11-10 12:45             ` Kajetan Puchalski
2022-11-07  9:41     ` Jian-Min Liu (劉建旻)

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