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From: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
To: Jian-Min Liu <jian-min.liu@mediatek.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
	Vincent Donnefort <vdonnefort@google.com>
Cc: Quentin Perret <qperret@google.com>,
	Patrick Bellasi <patrick.bellasi@matbug.net>,
	Abhijeet Dharmapurikar <adharmap@quicinc.com>,
	Qais Yousef <qais.yousef@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Jonathan JMChen <jonathan.jmchen@mediatek.com>,
	Kajetan Puchalski <kajetan.puchalski@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/1] sched/pelt: Change PELT halflife at runtime
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2022 19:09:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ef5fcbf2-e018-9af2-48c3-9fea3109b27f@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0f82011994be68502fd9833e499749866539c3df.camel@mediatek.com>

+ Kajetan Puchalski <kajetan.puchalski@arm.com>

On 20/09/2022 16:07, Jian-Min Liu wrote:
> 
> Update some test data in android phone to support switching PELT HL 
> is helpful functionality.
> 
> We switch runtime PELT HL during runtime by difference scenario e.g.
> pelt8 in playing game, pelt32 in camera video. Support runntime
> switching PELT HL is flexible for different workloads.
> 
> the below table show performance & power data points: 
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> --|                      | PELT
> halflife                                |
> |                      |----------------------------------------------|
> |                      |       32      |       16      |       8      |
> |                      |----------------------------------------------|
> |                      | avg  min  avg | avg  min  avg | avg  min  avg|
> | Scenarios            | fps  fps  pwr | fps  fps  pwr | fps  fps  pwr|
> |---------------------------------------------------------------------|
> | HOK game 60fps       | 100  100  100 | 105 *134* 102 | 104 *152* 106|
> | HOK game 90fps       | 100  100  100 | 101 *114* 101 | 103 *129* 105|
> | HOK game 120fps      | 100  100  100 | 102 *124* 102 | 105 *134* 105|
> | FHD video rec. 60fps | 100  100  100 | n/a  n/a  n/a | 100  100  103|
> | Camera snapshot      | 100  100  100 | n/a  n/a  n/a | 100  100  102|
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> HOK ... Honour Of Kings, Video game
> FHD ... Full High Definition
> fps ... frame per second
> pwr ... power consumption
> 
> table values are in %

I assume that you are specifically interested in those higher min fps
numbers which can be achieved with a tolerable energy consumption
increase when running the game with 16ms or even 8ms PELT halflife.

We see a similar effect when running the UI performance benchmark
Jankbench.

So you need this runtime-switchable PELT multiplier. Would this sched
feature interface:

https://lkml.kernel.org/r/YwyOzgbbUbB+JmSH@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net

be sufficient for you? People don't like to support `changing PELT
halflife` via an official sysctl.

[...]

  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-28 17:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-29  5:54 [RFC PATCH 0/1] sched/pelt: Change PELT halflife at runtime Dietmar Eggemann
2022-08-29  5:54 ` [RFC PATCH 1/1] sched/pelt: Introduce PELT multiplier Dietmar Eggemann
2022-08-29  8:08   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-08-29 10:02     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-08-29 10:13       ` Vincent Guittot
2022-08-29 14:23         ` Quentin Perret
2022-08-29 14:34           ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-08-29 15:31             ` Quentin Perret
2022-08-29 15:48             ` Quentin Perret
2022-09-02  7:53         ` Dietmar Eggemann
2022-09-02  8:45           ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-09-06  5:49           ` Vincent Guittot
2022-09-08  6:50             ` Dietmar Eggemann
2022-09-02  7:53       ` Dietmar Eggemann
2022-09-02  8:45         ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-09-20 14:07 ` [RFC PATCH 0/1] sched/pelt: Change PELT halflife at runtime Jian-Min Liu
2022-09-28 17:09   ` Dietmar Eggemann [this message]
2022-09-29  9:47   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-09-29 11:07     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2022-09-29 11:10     ` Kajetan Puchalski
2022-09-29 11:21       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-09-29 14:41         ` Kajetan Puchalski
2022-10-03 22:57           ` Wei Wang
2022-10-04  9:33             ` Dietmar Eggemann
2022-10-05 16:57               ` Wei Wang
2022-11-07 13:41           ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-08 19:48             ` Qais Yousef
2022-11-09 15:49               ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-10 13:25                 ` Qais Yousef
2023-02-07 10:29                 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-02-09 16:16                   ` Vincent Guittot
2023-02-17 13:54                     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-02-20 13:54                       ` Vincent Guittot
2023-02-21  9:29                         ` Vincent Guittot
2023-02-22 20:28                           ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-03-01 10:24                             ` Vincent Guittot
2023-02-22 20:13                         ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-03-02 19:36                           ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-02-20 10:13                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-20 13:39                       ` Vincent Guittot
2023-02-23 15:37                     ` Qais Yousef
2023-03-01 10:39                       ` Vincent Guittot
2023-03-01 17:24                         ` Qais Yousef
2023-03-02  8:00                           ` Vincent Guittot
2023-03-02 19:39                             ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-03-06 19:11                             ` Qais Yousef
2023-03-07 13:22                               ` Vincent Guittot
2023-03-11 16:55                                 ` Qais Yousef
2023-03-23 16:29                           ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-04-03 14:45                             ` Qais Yousef
2023-04-06 15:58                               ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-04-11 17:51                                 ` Qais Yousef
2022-11-09 15:18             ` Lukasz Luba
2022-11-10 11:16             ` Dietmar Eggemann
2022-11-10 13:05               ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-10 14:59                 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2022-11-10 17:51                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-11-30 18:14                     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2022-12-01 13:37                       ` Kajetan Puchalski
2022-11-10 12:45             ` Kajetan Puchalski
2022-11-07  9:41     ` Jian-Min Liu (劉建旻)

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