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From: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
To: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
Cc: "KP Singh" <kpsingh@kernel.org>,
	"Dave Hansen" <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	"Josh Poimboeuf" <jpoimboe@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, pjt@google.com, evn@google.com,
	tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@redhat.com,
	dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, x86@kernel.org, hpa@zytor.com,
	peterz@infradead.org, pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com,
	kim.phillips@amd.com, alexandre.chartre@oracle.com,
	daniel.sneddon@linux.intel.com,
	"José Oliveira" <joseloliveira11@gmail.com>,
	"Rodrigo Branco" <rodrigo@kernelhacking.com>,
	"Alexandra Sandulescu" <aesa@google.com>,
	"Jim Mattson" <jmattson@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND] x86/speculation: Fix user-mode spectre-v2 protection with KERNEL_IBRS
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2023 11:59:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y/SkAqvl8YCZXAnB@zn.tnic> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50231372-2d6d-e4af-be88-5fe45e0c210d@citrix.com>

On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 11:30:46PM +0000, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> 1) Intel's legacy IBRS
> 2) AMD's regular IBRS

Yeah, we don't do that in the kernel.

> 3) AMD's AutoIBRS
> 
> which all have different relevant behaviours for userspace.  Just so
> it's written out coherently in at least one place...
> 
> When SEV-SNP is enabled in firmware, whether or not it's being used by
> software, AutoIBRS keeps indirect predictions inhibited in all of
> ASID0.  That's all host userspace to the non-hypervisor devs reading
> this thread.

Yap.

> For any AMD configuration setting STIBP, there must be an IBPB after
> having set STIBP.   Setting STIBP alone does not evict previously
> created shared predictions.  This one can go subtly wrong for anyone who
> assumes that Intel STIBP and AMD STIBP have the same behaviour.

We will IBPB eventually... on the next context switch.

> Furthermore, extra care needs taking on vmexit because transitioning
> from the guest STIBP setting to the host STIBP setting can leave shared
> predictions intact.

From what I can tell from looking at the SVM code, we don't do anything
special there when restoring SPEC_CTRL.

-- 
Regards/Gruss,
    Boris.

https://people.kernel.org/tglx/notes-about-netiquette

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-02-21 10:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-20 12:01 [PATCH RESEND] x86/speculation: Fix user-mode spectre-v2 protection with KERNEL_IBRS KP Singh
2023-02-20 12:13 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-02-20 12:20   ` KP Singh
2023-02-20 12:34     ` KP Singh
2023-02-20 14:31       ` Borislav Petkov
2023-02-20 15:38         ` Dave Hansen
2023-02-20 19:57         ` Andrew Cooper
2023-02-20 21:10           ` Borislav Petkov
2023-02-20 23:01             ` KP Singh
2023-02-20 23:30             ` Andrew Cooper
2023-02-20 23:45               ` KP Singh
2023-02-21 18:52                 ` KP Singh
2023-02-21 10:59               ` Borislav Petkov [this message]
2023-02-20 16:34       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-02-20 17:46         ` Borislav Petkov
2023-02-20 17:59           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-02-20 18:01             ` KP Singh
2023-02-20 18:22               ` Borislav Petkov
2023-02-20 18:44                 ` KP Singh
2023-02-20 18:51                   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-02-20 18:56                     ` KP Singh
2023-02-20 19:02                       ` Borislav Petkov
2023-02-20 19:10                         ` KP Singh
2023-02-20 18:27               ` [PATCH] x86/bugs: Allow STIBP with IBRS Josh Poimboeuf
2023-02-20 18:33                 ` KP Singh
2023-02-20 18:59                   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-02-20 19:04                     ` KP Singh
2023-02-20 19:19                       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-02-20 18:34                 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-02-20 19:09                   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-02-20 19:16                     ` KP Singh
2023-02-20 19:35                       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-02-20 19:38                         ` KP Singh
2023-02-20 19:20                     ` Borislav Petkov
2023-02-22  1:20                     ` Pawan Gupta
2023-02-22  1:26                       ` KP Singh
2023-02-22  1:38                         ` Pawan Gupta
2023-02-27 19:59 ` [tip: x86/urgent] x86/speculation: Allow enabling STIBP with legacy IBRS tip-bot2 for KP Singh

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