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From: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
To: Guo Ren <guoren@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrea Parri <parri.andrea@gmail.com>,
	Daniel Lustig <dlustig@nvidia.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-riscv <linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org>,
	Guo Ren <guoren@linux.alibaba.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 0/3] riscv: atomic: Optimize AMO instructions usage
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 14:30:50 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Ylu0GqNmYmCnpv9Z@tardis> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJF2gTTZnBh_z31VK81cYiBrTt5NRVpSahoPh35Zo4Ns5hCv7A@mail.gmail.com>

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On Sun, Apr 17, 2022 at 12:51:38PM +0800, Guo Ren wrote:
> Hi Boqun & Andrea,
> 
> On Sun, Apr 17, 2022 at 10:26 AM Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 17, 2022 at 12:49:44AM +0800, Guo Ren wrote:
> > [...]
> > >
> > > If both the aq and rl bits are set, the atomic memory operation is
> > > sequentially consistent and cannot be observed to happen before any
> > > earlier memory operations or after any later memory operations in the
> > > same RISC-V hart and to the same address domain.
> > >                 "0:     lr.w     %[p],  %[c]\n"
> > >                 "       sub      %[rc], %[p], %[o]\n"
> > >                 "       bltz     %[rc], 1f\n".
> > > -               "       sc.w.rl  %[rc], %[rc], %[c]\n"
> > > +               "       sc.w.aqrl %[rc], %[rc], %[c]\n"
> > >                 "       bnez     %[rc], 0b\n"
> > > -               "       fence    rw, rw\n"
> > >                 "1:\n"
> > > So .rl + fence rw, rw is over constraints, only using sc.w.aqrl is more proper.
> > >
> >
> > Can .aqrl order memory accesses before and after it (not against itself,
> > against each other), i.e. act as a full memory barrier? For example, can
> From the RVWMO spec description, the .aqrl annotation appends the same
> effect with "fence rw, rw" to the AMO instruction, so it's RCsc.
> 

Thanks for the confirmation, btw, where can I find the RVWMO spec?

> Not only .aqrl, and I think the below also could be an RCsc when
> sc.w.aq is executed:
> A: Pre-Access
> B: lr.w.rl ADDR-0
> ...
> C: sc.w.aq ADDR-0
> D: Post-Acess
> Because sc.w.aq has overlap address & data dependency on lr.w.rl, the
> global memory order should be A->B->C->D when sc.w.aq is executed. For
> the amoswap
> 
> The purpose of the whole patchset is to reduce the usage of
> independent fence rw, rw instructions, and maximize the usage of the
> .aq/.rl/.aqrl aonntation of RISC-V.
> 
>                 __asm__ __volatile__ (                                  \
>                         "0:     lr.w %0, %2\n"                          \
>                         "       bne  %0, %z3, 1f\n"                     \
>                         "       sc.w.rl %1, %z4, %2\n"                  \
>                         "       bnez %1, 0b\n"                          \
>                         "       fence rw, rw\n"                         \
>                         "1:\n"                                          \
> 
> > we end up with u == 1, v == 1, r1 on P0 is 0 and r1 on P1 is 0, for the
> > following litmus test?
> >
> >     C lr-sc-aqrl-pair-vs-full-barrier
> >
> >     {}
> >
> >     P0(int *x, int *y, atomic_t *u)
> >     {
> >             int r0;
> >             int r1;
> >
> >             WRITE_ONCE(*x, 1);
> >             r0 = atomic_cmpxchg(u, 0, 1);
> >             r1 = READ_ONCE(*y);
> >     }
> >
> >     P1(int *x, int *y, atomic_t *v)
> >     {
> >             int r0;
> >             int r1;
> >
> >             WRITE_ONCE(*y, 1);
> >             r0 = atomic_cmpxchg(v, 0, 1);
> >             r1 = READ_ONCE(*x);
> >     }
> >
> >     exists (u=1 /\ v=1 /\ 0:r1=0 /\ 1:r1=0)
> I think my patchset won't affect the above sequence guarantee. Current
> RISC-V implementation only gives RCsc when the original value is the
> same at least once. So I prefer RISC-V cmpxchg should be:
> 
> 
> -                       "0:     lr.w %0, %2\n"                          \
> +                      "0:     lr.w.rl %0, %2\n"                          \
>                         "       bne  %0, %z3, 1f\n"                     \
>                         "       sc.w.rl %1, %z4, %2\n"                  \
>                         "       bnez %1, 0b\n"                          \
> -                       "       fence rw, rw\n"                         \
>                         "1:\n"                                          \
> +                        "       fence w, rw\n"                    \
> 
> To give an unconditional RSsc for atomic_cmpxchg.
> 

Note that Linux kernel doesn't require cmpxchg() to provide any order if
cmpxchg() fails to update the memory location. So you won't need to
strengthen the atomic_cmpxchg().

Regards,
Boqun

> >
> > Regards,
> > Boqun
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Best Regards
>  Guo Ren
> 
> ML: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-csky/

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-17  6:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-12  3:49 [PATCH V2 0/3] riscv: atomic: Optimize AMO instructions usage guoren
2022-04-12  3:49 ` [PATCH V2 1/3] riscv: atomic: Cleanup unnecessary definition guoren
2022-04-12  3:49 ` [PATCH V2 2/3] riscv: atomic: Optimize acquire and release for AMO operations guoren
2022-04-12  3:49 ` [PATCH V2 3/3] riscv: atomic: Optimize memory barrier semantics of LRSC-pairs guoren
2022-04-13 15:46 ` [PATCH V2 0/3] riscv: atomic: Optimize AMO instructions usage Boqun Feng
2022-04-16 16:49   ` Guo Ren
2022-04-17  2:26     ` Boqun Feng
2022-04-17  4:51       ` Guo Ren
2022-04-17  6:30         ` Boqun Feng [this message]
2022-04-17  6:45           ` Guo Ren
2022-04-19 17:12         ` Dan Lustig
2022-04-20  5:33           ` Guo Ren
2022-04-20 17:03             ` Dan Lustig
2022-04-21  9:39               ` Guo Ren
2022-04-21 22:56                 ` Boqun Feng
2022-04-22  1:56                   ` Guo Ren
2022-04-22  3:11                     ` Boqun Feng
2022-04-24  7:52                       ` Guo Ren
2022-04-18 23:41     ` Andrea Parri
2022-04-19 17:13       ` Dan Lustig
2022-04-24  8:33       ` Guo Ren

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